Is the official name of this town Derry or Londonderry? On the maps I have seen it is down as "Londonderry (Derry)". Any Northern Irishmen available to elaborate? (WT-en) Sjc196 09:57, 10 Aug 2004 (EDT)
- Um, to say this is a can of words would be putting it mildly. Differing slants on the word 'official' could mean it could go either way, but the usual compromise is to call the city 'Derry' and the county 'Londonderry'. Hopefully everyone can live with this. From Norn Iron, (WT-en) Professorbiscuit 07:42, 10 Aug 2004 (EDT)
- Thanks for the input! I assumed it would be sensitive...and as I realise that emotions run high in this part of the world I thought I'd leave it to someone who knows before just making wanton changes... (WT-en) Sjc196 09:57, 10 Aug 2004 (EDT)
- "Official" doesn't matter, anyways. We use the most common English name, not the official name. --(WT-en) Evan 16:40, 10 Aug 2004 (EDT)
republicans know it as derry , loyalists know it as londonderry and it will be like this for a long time, im from derry/l'derry , whatever you call it
Buy section
[edit]In the "Buy" section, I have changed "in the British Isles" to "in the UK or Ireland". the former is too politically loaded and offensive from a Republican point of view.
"hotbed of criminality"
[edit]took this out because while I wouldn't necessarily advise foreigners not with locals to wander aimlessly round the 'Bog or the Creggan (or indeed the Fountain) at night, "hotbed of criminality" was a bit strong... drink fuelled agression fairly well covers the topic I think. maybe a reference about being careful round interface areas (places where different communities are beside each other)
Put the name dispute in a infobox
[edit]I think we could handle the naming dispute by putting an infobox (perhaps with the headline "what's in a name?") in the understand section. What say ye? Hobbitschuster (talk) 12:25, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Compare the solution used by Wikipedia - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Ireland-related_articles#Derry/Londonderry - "To avoid constant renaming of articles (and more), keep a neutral point of view, promote consistency in the encyclopedia, and avoid Stroke City-style terms perplexing to those unfamiliar with the dispute, a compromise solution was proposed and agreed in 2004 regarding the Derry/Londonderry name dispute, and has been generally accepted as a convention for both article titles and in-article references since then. Use Derry for the city and County Londonderry for the county in articles. Do not deviate from this merely because the subject relates to a particular side of the political divide, but where an entity uses a particular name, regardless of whether it is Derry or Londonderry, use that name for the entity; thus County Derry Post (newspaper), High Sheriff of County Londonderry, former Derry Central Railway, Londonderry railway station, North West Liberties of Londonderry, and Derry GAA (which will usually be abbreviated to Derry). The naming dispute can be discussed in the articles when appropriate." And see the post above from 2004 - "the usual compromise is to call the city 'Derry' and the county 'Londonderry'. Hopefully everyone can live with this." Alekksandr (talk) 21:07, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
- I stand corrected; Hobbitschuster has already made a reversion of my edit. Ibaman (talk) 22:50, 9 December 2019 (UTC)