Talk:Fremont Voyage Tips and guide

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Yeah! Everyone should totally have this on their list of places to see before they die! :-). I figure the audience for this is:

• Folks who live locally
• People who are visiting relatives locally
• Business travelers visiting Electronics companies(there's been a serious boom in hotel building because of the numbers of business travelers.)
• People who are trying to visit all the Spanish missions. That's a pretty typical activity when California kids get to 5th grade (or whichever grade it is that teaches them California history)

(WT-en) Colin 17:04, 27 Mar 2004 (EST)

I think it's a good idea to remember that "traveller" != "tourist". People travel for a ton of different reasons, but everybody still needs to eat, sleep, go out, see sights, etc. And, hey: I think Fremont is worth a look.

BTW, where do you think Fremont fits in in the Bay Area? I was thinking either East Bay or Silicon Valley, although I could be convinced that there's another sub-region in the Southeast... --(WT-en) Evan 15:34, 30 Mar 2004 (EST)

Okay, I've done some research Here's a link to the historical definition I see most commonly: http://www.netvalley.com/archives/mirrors/terman.html I think we need a South Bay (Bay Area) region within the Bay Area, and here's some examples for why:

• South Bay (Bay Area) should include Fremont and Santa Clara but not Palo Alto
• Peninsula (Bay Area) should include Palo Alto but not Fremont or Santa Clara
• Silicon Valley should include Palo Alto and Santa Clara but not Fremont

Note that Palo Alto's page already confesses to being part of both both Silicon Valley and Peninsula (Bay Area).

I think the fix for all this is: add South Bay (Bay Area), and then note in the Bay Area (California) web page that Silicon Valley covers parts of the Peninsula (Bay Area) as well as parts of South Bay (Bay Area). South Bay is the term actually used by locals. Any comments before I (or some nice volunteer) goes ahead with this?

And I still don't know where Hayward goes.

-- (WT-en) Colin 00:40, 2 Apr 2004 (EST)

Update: I'm still not happy with this solution I proposed, so I haven't done anything about it yet. If I make a South Bay region within the Bay Area, we still need a Silicon Valley region page because people will be looking for it. So Silicon Valley will overlap South Bay. Actually, Silicon Valley and Penninsula already overlap in Palo Alto, but do I really want to make this worse? So I'll keep thinking about this for now. (WT-en) Colin 22:53, 10 Apr 2004 (EDT)

An earlier version of the page read, "If you want a fancy restaurant, or a large selection of ethnic food, consider crossing the Dumbarton Bridge to Palo Alto." I disagree with 'or a large selection of ethnic food'.

Pretty much all of the good restaurants in or around Fremont are 'ethnic'. In particular, they tend to be Chinese, Vietnamese, Afghani, or Mexican. (I haven't come across any really great Indian food, for all the Indian engineers we have.) In my opinion, it's good American or European food that's hard to find around Fremont.

I hope you don't mind me editing that phrase out from the Wiki. (I'm hoping to add more local restaurants to the section; it will look silly to say that there's no large selection of ethnic food when I'll be listing many ethnic restaurants.)

No problem. I'd like to re-add the comment about fancy restaurants though (unless you want to add Papillion as fancy or something). Palo Alto's ethnic food is in a more dense area and easier to find though. But yeah, let's drop the ethnic part of it. Sounds like you know more restaurants around here than me, so I'm personally looking forward to your entries :-). Any suggestions for Indian in North Fremont -- I've had terrible bad luck with the one in Ardenwood. As for American food, I'd suggest Country Way myself or Mex influenced chains like Spoons. We really need to add a Newark and Union City entry to catch some of those places too (like Baldy's Cafe which is American food).

Also, it'd be great if you'd create an account for yourself so it'd be easier to communicate and stuff. But no worries if you don't! -- (WT-en) Colin 19:32, 7 Jul 2004 (EDT)

My duh. You already edited the line perfectly. I really should look at the page first :-). -- (WT-en) Colin 19:35, 7 Jul 2004 (EDT)

• grin* No problem. I haven't found any great Indian restaurants. Would you rather we have a lot of restaurants to choose from -- or for me to post what I consider the best of each category? This would be the difference between, say, eight restaurants and about twenty in the final listing. (Why, yes, I do eat out a lot.)

Hi! We usually like to list between 5-7 restaurants. If there are really more than that that "need" to be listed, then break them into categories. Imagine you have a friend in town for a weekend, would you give them 20 recomendations or more like 5? Oh, and you can sign your posts using ~~~~. And welcome!-(WT-en) Majnoona 21:48, 7 Jul 2004 (EDT)

Thanks for the info! I think that categories make the most sense -- not everyone is interested in the same kind of food. I'm just learning to work with this wiki. I'll add what info I think travellers would find most interesting. (WT-en) Chip 21:55, 7 Jul 2004 (EDT)

What information is this article lacking so that the outline status indicator can be removed? It seems like a relatively complete and useful article to me. Any Fremont resident reading this article and the complementary WP article on Fremont would be bound to learn something new. (WT-en) Chaiken 12:57, 11 Feb 2006 (EST)

I agree-- go ahead and plunge forward and update it to the status that you think fits... (WT-en) Majnoona 15:19, 11 Feb 2006 (EST)

The map shows the borders of Fremont and Newark combined. I know that Newark is an enclave of Fremont, but the western border of Newark is entirely wildlife preserve with no buildings.