vfd discussion
[edit]- Delete. Is a road really a destination? Doesn't seem famous enough to be an Itinerary. (WT-en) DanielC 08:07, 28 February 2006 (EST)
- Keep. I am thinking keep this for now. Not much there yet, but we do have Route 66. I agree this may not be exactly the same thing, but this could grow. (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 08:35, 28 February 2006 (EST)
- Keep. This one is actually a good candidate for a Route-66-like "destination" that I could see as an eventual CotM. It would have to expand beyond just the Florida waypoints, but that can be done; don't confuse "what is" with "what could be." -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 08:57, 28 February 2006 (EST)
- Keep. Seems like a possible itinerary. -- (WT-en) Colin 15:57, 14 March 2006 (EST)
- Keep. I like it for an article, but geez, Mile 0 is at Key West, so it's all backwards, right? (WT-en) OldPine 20:00, 15 July 2006 (EDT)
- Question on this: Does anyone know the last time this venerable route was driven end to end and by whom? —The preceding comment was added by 64.61.36.2 (talk • contribs) 12:27, 11 May 2011
- I agree, and the fact that some people would choose to drive a section of this road (such as my then-girlfriend and I did from New York to Providence in 1996) is a sufficient reason to keep it. However, the vfd discussion is 6 years old and was apparently resolved at that time in favor of keeping the article. —The preceding comment was added by Ikan Kekek (talk • contribs) 17:33, 11 May 2011
- Obviously this is a keep; it may be road, but it travels in the historic parts of America, from modern to Revolutionary War and in between. Donny (talk) 17:25, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
"Go next" section
[edit]On the face of it, it doesn't make sense to me to include cities the highway goes through in "Go next", which is supposed to cover places outside the destination (or in this case, itinerary). I'm not even sure we need a "Go next" section. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:11, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- I agree. I may have started it, and I thought it meant cities on the highway as a place to go for a day, but if that's your take. Donny (talk) 22:26, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah. The cities belong in "Drive" or a similar section. Some relevant Guide itinerary articles that could be used as examples of good route coverage are Route 66, Natchez Trace Parkway and Dalton Highway. Route 66 is the most similar in character, probably, but actually, none is really fully analogous, given that Route 66 has been retired, and Route 1 goes through numerous big cities, unlike Natchez Trace Parkway and Dalton Highway. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:55, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- Huh. Never knew that. Would side-trips from the highway count in "Go Next"? Like other highways? I mean, I know that a lot are not listed, but how about that? Or nearby cities accessed from the highway's main cities? Like Yonkers from the Bronx, or Wilmington, Delaware from Philadelphia? Would those be good in the section or just forget it? Donny (talk) 16:51, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, we could have a "Go next" section for side trips, if you or anyone else feels it's useful. If you'd like to suggest side trips, go ahead and put them in "Go next". Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:21, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Gotcha. I'll go through with it. Donny (talk) 17:36, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, we could have a "Go next" section for side trips, if you or anyone else feels it's useful. If you'd like to suggest side trips, go ahead and put them in "Go next". Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:21, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Huh. Never knew that. Would side-trips from the highway count in "Go Next"? Like other highways? I mean, I know that a lot are not listed, but how about that? Or nearby cities accessed from the highway's main cities? Like Yonkers from the Bronx, or Wilmington, Delaware from Philadelphia? Would those be good in the section or just forget it? Donny (talk) 16:51, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah. The cities belong in "Drive" or a similar section. Some relevant Guide itinerary articles that could be used as examples of good route coverage are Route 66, Natchez Trace Parkway and Dalton Highway. Route 66 is the most similar in character, probably, but actually, none is really fully analogous, given that Route 66 has been retired, and Route 1 goes through numerous big cities, unlike Natchez Trace Parkway and Dalton Highway. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:55, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- I've included several more complete Wikivoyage itineraries to the "Go next" section of this article , that may be of an interest to travelers as a number of the places identified in the other articles are along US Highway 1. Could the US 66 or the I 5/I-10 articles serve as "templates" to restructure this article? Shall the cities listed under the "Go next" section of this article be "clipped & pasted" under the state names, under "Drive"? Anyone150 (talk) 21:26, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Let's tell people what to expect
[edit]I gave it a try, but I haven't traveled on long stretches north of New Rochelle nor really much in New Jersey since the 90s, and even then, it was only the stretch from Philadelphia to Boston that I had experienced. But I think it's important to distinguish between the lovely stretches east of New Haven that go through one village after another, passing each one's village green; sections between New Rochelle and the Bronx that are full of trucks, lack residential development or streetfront stores and would be very unpleasant and perhaps dangerous to walk or bike; sections in New Jersey where it's a city street; and sections between New Brunswick and Philadelphia which are not picturesque but present a car-centric series of strip malls and so forth. Telling people what major cities the road connects is a relatively minor part of what we should be doing, as there are much faster ways to get between many of them than to take this road. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- An alternate for car travel would be Interstate 95 which runs more or less the same route as US Highway 1 between Houlton, Maine and Miami, Florida. From Houlton US 1 continues another 100 miles north towards Ft Kent. In the south end of I-95 in Miami, US 1 serves as a physical continuation of I-95, from south of downtown Miami towards Key West via Florida City, Homestead, Key Largo, etc. US 1 closely parallels I-95 for most parts of the way except in Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia (between Jacksonville and Richmond); and in Maine where they are furthest apart. I-95 is also the New Jersey Turnpike through New Jersey. But for the most part they go through the same states along the eastern seaboard. So with that said the mention of I-95 as well as other parallel US Highways (US 1-9, 9, 17, 301, etc) could be included. Not sure how to do it without cluttering to much as the roads closely parallel each other in a densely populated part of the country but at least this article can be coupled with I-95 to solve the issues of "there are mouch faster ways to get between many of them..." you wrote in the above, which it does in real life, particularly between Boston and Washington DC or all the way down to Richmond VA. The Interstate highways were mainly built to replace or supersede a US Highway (like I-5 replaces US Hwy 99) or a series of US and state Highways (like Interstates 10, 15, 40, 44 & 55 bypass and parallel US Route 66 between Chicago and Los Angeles), between 1960s to 1990s in phases and even into today where I-69 is being completed in phases between Michigan and Texas. Anyone150 (talk) 21:53, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- The reason to drive on Route 1 is that I-95 is boring and also a toll road in some places, whereas Route 1 often goes through downtowns. Even the car-centric landscapes of yesteryear that one sees in stretches in New Jersey have a smaller but still present degree of interest for some people. But different portions of the route present different experiences, so that's important to describe in an itinerary article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:17, 19 March 2023 (UTC)