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[edit]I changed File:Mena-asia default banner.jpgto File:Yuzhouzhan.jpg.I think it is good.악준동 (talk) 06:10, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
"Districts" section from article
[edit]There is nowhere near enough content in this article for us to even consider district articles at this point, if ever. However, some of the information laid out in this section might be useful if adapted suitably. An "Orientation" subsection could be created in "Understand," with advice to visitors about which neighborhoods to visit for what and how to recognize one from another:
Yuzhou City Centre
[edit]| Ancient City District The historic center of Yuzhou, famous for its ancient kilns, cultural heritage, and traditional architecture. |
| West District A developing urban area, known for its educational institutions and modern residential complexes. |
| North District An industrial and cultural mix, featuring the Yuzhou Museum and several local temples. |
| South District A quieter residential district, with scenic parks and access to the surrounding hills. |
| East District A thriving commercial zone with shopping centers and entertainment venues. |
| Jiaxian Scenic Area A natural area near the mountains, known for its hiking trails and historical sites. |
Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Enhance the appeal of the introduction
[edit]The information about the historical importance of Yuzhou is abundant, but you can add some description of the unique charm of Yuzhou at the beginning. You can add a sentence to highlight its historical atmosphere and cultural appeal. Mcx8202229 (talk) 05:12, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Constructive suggestions
[edit]I think it could be enriched by including some more pictures HYH031277777 (talk) 12:49, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- I still think this is true. Hanyuanyuan613, this is something else you could work on. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:28, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Request: Please review my article
[edit]I am a university student, and as part of a school assignment, I am working on a Wikivoyage article about Yuzhou, China.
I would greatly appreciate your feedback on the article. Hanyuanyuan613 (talk) 03:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Some quick thoughts: There's a lot of content in this article, and that's great. However, please remove default address information like "Yuzhou City" from addresses. Also, in the "Buy" section, "Various locations in Yuzhou" is not useful information. Is there no way you could list all the addresses? If not, could you at least give a URL and phone number? If not, I'd suggest not using a listing template but just stating that "in addition to the listings below, look for various places around town that sell porcelain and local handicrafts." Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your suggestion, I have made the changes. Hanyuanyuan613 (talk) 10:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, much better! One further thing occurred to me: I think "Varies by product" is unnecessary to state in "price" for a market. Everyone would assume so. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:02, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- I just looked at your latest edits. This article is shaping up very nicely! I'd love it if Yuzhou could be a Destination of the month at some point. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:15, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek :) But the class assignment is almost over, so I think that's about all we can help with here... Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 07:40, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Unless User:Hanyuanyuan613 or someone else who's knowledgeable about the city would like to volunteer to edit recreationally like the rest of us. We always hope some of the people who participate in editathons and class assignments decide to stay. But if they'd prefer not to do something like add more thumbnails, someone else could, even if they don't know the city, as long as there are useful pictures of the city on Commons. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:28, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Folks, this article is almost at Guide level. See Wikivoyage:City article status. The one thing that's clearly missing, if we go by the book, is one-liner descriptions of "Go next" destinations. Would you like to work on that, User:Hanyuanyuan613? Or at least give some examples of the "surrounding towns" mentioned in Go next (so "Buses run frequently to surrounding towns such as [names of a few towns] for less than ¥10..."). This article also surely still needs more images from Commons if you'd like to add some, but anyone can try doing that if there are good choices. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:48, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Unless User:Hanyuanyuan613 or someone else who's knowledgeable about the city would like to volunteer to edit recreationally like the rest of us. We always hope some of the people who participate in editathons and class assignments decide to stay. But if they'd prefer not to do something like add more thumbnails, someone else could, even if they don't know the city, as long as there are useful pictures of the city on Commons. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:28, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek :) But the class assignment is almost over, so I think that's about all we can help with here... Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 07:40, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- I just looked at your latest edits. This article is shaping up very nicely! I'd love it if Yuzhou could be a Destination of the month at some point. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:15, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, much better! One further thing occurred to me: I think "Varies by product" is unnecessary to state in "price" for a market. Everyone would assume so. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:02, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your suggestion, I have made the changes. Hanyuanyuan613 (talk) 10:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Xia?
[edit]The article mentions "Emperor Yu of Xia". Is that the Xia Dynasty? Or Western Xia? If so, it should have a link. Anyway it needs some explanation & preferably a date, even if that is something vague like "a few hundred BCE". Not a long explanation, though.
This is a general problem. Any Chinese will know (at least approximately) what "Spring and Autumn Period" or "Ming Dynasty" means, but many of our readers will have no idea. At least add dates to all such expressions. This goes for other countries too, e.g. Korean dynasties or expressions like "pre-revolutionary France" or "Regency architecture" in England. Pashley (talk) 12:04, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Hanyangprofessor2: I think this might be worth adding to your instructions to students. Pashley (talk) 12:16, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Pashley Good idea. Is there a Wikivoyage page that I can link to for such advice? Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 11:47, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- I can't think of one. I think it's not so bad to refer to periods of history if they are laid out in the "History" subsections of "Understand" in the country (or where more relevant, some level of region) article. The problem arises if for example the Warring States period is not defined in any higher-level article but is referred to in a bottom-level article. But though it's a good practice to use BCE and CE, I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to figure that people who don't know the inclusive years of a dynasty such as the Ming Dynasty that ruled what was then all of China can look it up elsewhere, such as on Wikipedia. I hope tbat knowledge of Chinese dynasties is pretty widespread among educated people. Knowledge of Korean history before World War II and Japanese history before Meiji is much lesser outside of the region, though. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Pashley Good idea. Is there a Wikivoyage page that I can link to for such advice? Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 11:47, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- For China there's Imperial_China#Dynasties_and_capitals and some redirects to that such as Tang Dynasty. The set of redirects is not complete but more could be created as needed, e.g. for Warring States Period. I don't know of anything similar for other countries.
- Historical periods are not the only problem. There are many things in any country that will be well-known to locals but perhaps baffling to visitors, e.g. w:Cao Cao or w:Ned Kelly. Many of these are best handled by expanding the text a little, using "the Han Dynasty general Cao Cao" or "the 19th century outlaw Ned Kelly" instead of just the name. Also, if some temple was built by Cao Cao & we add a Wikipedia link in the temple listing, then anyone who cares about the details can go to the WP temple article & follow a link there to Cao Cao.
- For some things, there are redirects such as kung fu or jeepney. Pashley (talk) 17:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- I think kung fu is a normal term in English. As for jeepney, it is a local term in the Philippines, but would you really support linking to the coverage of the term in the Philippines article every time it's used in any bottom-level article about a place in the Philippines, or just expect people to think of looking at Philippines#Get around if they have no idea what the word means? If we mandate that kind of link, "tricycle" as something other than a three-wheeled toy for little kids, "marshrutka", "sherut" and other local or regional terms should also be linked every time, and that's a lot of work but I guess maybe should be done for the benefit of readers. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:30, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Of course such things should not be linked every time & it is a judgement call whether a link is appropriate somewhere, but we do have redirects for jeepney and for the Filipino spelling traysikel & there are dozens of links to each. Also barangay. Pashley (talk)
- We also have redirects for things like Golden Horde & Xi'an incident. I'd say these are appropriate; we neither want to use such terms without explanation nor explain them every time they are used. Again, this needs judgement; not all possible redirects are worth creating. Pashley (talk) 18:02, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Barangay is really meaningless for non-Filipinos, as Malaysian terms like mukim and daerah, which we don't use, are. I don't think the solution is to link some definition of barangay every time, but I would support putting an equivalent (Is it township? I forget.) in parentheses every time. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:29, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Township is not even close. It is an administrative region, as the link says "a rural district or an urban neighborhood". Its only importance to most visitors is that addresses or directions almost always include the barangay name. For longer-term visitors the barangay office provides other services like flu shots. Pashley (talk) 20:21, 26 November 2025 (UTC)