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Other archives (mostly defunct nowadays)

  • Pub archive – all discussions swept from the pub
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I am puzzled by your (?) sending messages to hundreds (?) of users who might be eligible for the TAIV permission. Do we have people who need the right and don't follow discussions in the Pub? Don't we know them, so that messages could be sent just to those few who we'd encourage to apply for the permission? I don't like mass messages, especially uninvited mass messages, and I think encouraging people who don't do patrolling on a regular bases to get the right defies the intention of hiding IP addresses in the first place. I am open for other views, though. –LPfi (talk) 14:58, 8 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

@LPfi: I've basically followed the entire procedure that Commons has followed from the get go. I am with you on unsolicited mass messages, but I had thought this one through for at least a few days: one, a lot of people do not actively follow what happens with technical spaces, and this is a major change worth notifying; two, this includes myself on some wikis, and if I didn't have global temporary account IP viewer permissions already (from global sysop perms), the mass message definitely would have resulted in me applying on Commons. shb (t | c | m) 22:05, 8 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
As for those who "don't do patrolling on a regular bases to get the right defies the intention of hiding IP addresses in the first place", this is also why I only sent it to users who already have some sort of local perm (autopatroller, patroller, template editor) on this wiki and not just everyone who met the 6-month 300-edit criteria. Those users are far more likely to engage with anti-vandalism/anti-abuse, but also unlike sysops, likely users who don't check the pub regularly. //shb (t | c | m) 22:31, 8 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
I don't think the intention is to hide IP addresses from experienced editors. I think it's more about not having IP addresses be visible to the general public forever. We want editors to notice the vandals and maybe even to notice that the vandal is editing from the same country as a past vandal. We don't want someone looking at a page history and thinking, "Huh, several years ago, someone from that city wrote something about a politician who lives in this destination. Hmm, I wonder if the political campaign can find out who did that..." WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:28, 9 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
This was my impression, too. //shb (t | c | m) 07:49, 9 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
If something like this comes up in the future, I suggest filtering out editors who haven't made any edits for, say, a year or two. WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:23, 9 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yeah not a bad idea, honestly – not sure if such a mass message will ever need to be sent, but 2 years is a good timeframe I hadn't thought about. //shb (t | c | m) 07:49, 9 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
OK, I didn't think too much about the restrictions to get on that list, which actually made sense. I only noticed that the number of recipients hinted at too broad distribution, probably because of the lack of last edit restriction. –LPfi (talk) 14:35, 9 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

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