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- It makes sense if this populates the articles to a single maintenance category, such as Category:Articles needing translation, but it doesn't – I think it should also be transcluded on the talk page. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 02:31, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: I have cleared out almost all the tags now, and I am more convinced that this template has no value. There we so many tags that had been sitting around as clutter for 5, 8, 10 years or more, and no-one was taking any notice. Furthermore, many of the tags were added by editors who are speakers the language of the Wikivoyage version they were linking to -- a French Canadian editor adding tags asking other people to translate from French Wikivoyage, a Swedish editor asking other people to translate from Swedish Wikivoyage, and a Finnish editors asking other people to translate from Finnish. The largest single tag-adder was a German editor (no longer avtive) who tagged dozens of articles encouraging people to translate from German articles. Telling other editors what to work on doesn't achieve much in collective projects. Ground Zero (talk) 12:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- That must've been some effort – thanks for clearing it out. I agree that this template renders useless now – anyone who wants to translate from another language can probably already see such articles in the other languages on the left sidebar anyway (in Vector 2010). Would even go as far as to say it's worth listing it on WV:VFD. --SHB (t | c | m) 13:05, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- I can see how they might be useful if they were used selectively to draw attention of editors who speak the languages in question, rather than as they are now. I am wondering if a better approach would be to deprecated the template, i.e., keep the coding and documentation, but tell people not to use it, so that it can easily be restored later. w:Template:Deprecated_template does this sometimes. Ground Zero (talk) 17:39, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- That solution also works – I think that is a much better solution to deleting. --SHB (t | c | m) 07:53, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- I can see how they might be useful if they were used selectively to draw attention of editors who speak the languages in question, rather than as they are now. I am wondering if a better approach would be to deprecated the template, i.e., keep the coding and documentation, but tell people not to use it, so that it can easily be restored later. w:Template:Deprecated_template does this sometimes. Ground Zero (talk) 17:39, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- That must've been some effort – thanks for clearing it out. I agree that this template renders useless now – anyone who wants to translate from another language can probably already see such articles in the other languages on the left sidebar anyway (in Vector 2010). Would even go as far as to say it's worth listing it on WV:VFD. --SHB (t | c | m) 13:05, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- @SHB2000: I have cleared out almost all the tags now, and I am more convinced that this template has no value. There we so many tags that had been sitting around as clutter for 5, 8, 10 years or more, and no-one was taking any notice. Furthermore, many of the tags were added by editors who are speakers the language of the Wikivoyage version they were linking to -- a French Canadian editor adding tags asking other people to translate from French Wikivoyage, a Swedish editor asking other people to translate from Swedish Wikivoyage, and a Finnish editors asking other people to translate from Finnish. The largest single tag-adder was a German editor (no longer avtive) who tagged dozens of articles encouraging people to translate from German articles. Telling other editors what to work on doesn't achieve much in collective projects. Ground Zero (talk) 12:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC)