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Regions of Hungary

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    You are long overdue a welcome message, and possibly don't need one but here goes anyway:

    Hello, City-busz! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

    To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. If you are familiar with Wikipedia, take a look over some of the differences here.

    Anyway, with that out of the way, I'd like to invite you to start a discussion on Talk:Hungary regarding the region changes you want to make. This sort of fundamental change to Wikivoyage's breadcrumb structure cannot be made by one editor alone; the wider community must have the opportunity to review and discuss your proposal.

    I for one look forward to reading what you have to say. All best wishes, ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:14, 18 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

    I'm sorry for that. I made my proposal: Talk:Hungary#Use official tourism regions of Hungary. --City-busz (talk) 16:40, 18 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
    Thank you! I will read and reply later.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:48, 18 October 2018 (UTC)Reply
    Yes, welcome to Wikivoyage and I hope you make a lot of progress in your edits so far. Don't worry, you've made a lot of progress, and any problems like Talk:Nagykanizsa are minor compared to the big picture. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 23:43, 12 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

    Thanks

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    Thanks for the work you've done on the Lenti article! The text you've added to the "Get in" section, for example, is very helpful because it's written by a local who knows the region well. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 03:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

    Autopatroller

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    Normally people aren't given this status so quickly, but you're a very trusted editor and I'm wondering if someone like Ikan Kekek could flip the switch. City-busz, your contributions have been very helpful and trustworthy, and I think you've shown yourself to be a constructive contributor in a small amount of time.

    In case you didn't know, City-busz, autopatroller is a status given to users so people like me no longer have to go through all your edits. At the moment, I go through your contributions and mark them as patrolled so other administrators and a few other users know they're okay. But checking your contributions is becoming a waste of time because they are so trustworthy. That means that it may be time to give you autopatroller status, which will save the admins (administrators) time. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 23:48, 16 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

    Feel free to do the honors. I agree with you. Thanks for your great work, City-busz! Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:36, 17 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
    Well, I don't think I can add autopatroller status. I think only bureaucrats can do that. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:50, 17 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
    Admins can do it :) See the banner on the left? Look under 'Tools', and then navigate to 'Change user groups'. Thank you, City-busz.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 00:53, 17 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
    Yes Done. I was mistaken, since I have checked at Wikivoyage:Autopatrollers and does actually say that they "can be assigned by any administrator". I thought bureaucrats were the only people who could change another user's status. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:56, 17 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
    The only things I know of that Bureaucrats can do that Admins can't are to make a user an Admin or Bureaucrat and to desysop an Admin. I don't think there's anything else. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:51, 17 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
    Well, according to Special:UserRights/City-busz, there are only a few things admins can do; bureaucrats do more. Actually, it's somewhat ironic that admins can block other admins but can't desysop admins. Blocking seems more drastic than de-sysopping. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:59, 17 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

    Hungarian expedition

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    There is now a Hungarian expedition and its page includes information about the status of Hungary articles, where would could be done to improve, etc. Interested? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:02, 3 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

    Yes, of course! 🙂 I started with articles about Zala County, but over the time I would like to impove other regions also in Hungary.--City-busz (talk) 21:49, 6 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
    Sounds great! Willing to do what I can to help you accomplish your mission. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:16, 7 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

    Southern part of Vas County

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    There are two city articles for Vas County, one of which is Szombathely. Originally the listings for "see" in Szombathely were mostly the same as those listed in Vas County, and I have solved this problem in the following way: listings near Szombathely are included in the Szombathely article, and those far away from Szombathely are included in the Vas County article.

    However, what I am seeing is a lot of listings in the south of Vas County that should probably be a part of some destination article. They are all near an area shown in green on OpenStreetMaps, which I believe is Orseg National Park, which has a listing in the Vas County article. Would it make sense to create a park article for Orseg National Park and then add to it the "see" listings that are currently in the Vas County article? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:20, 4 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

    I added cities/towns to Vas County#Cities based on W:Vas County#Regional structure. I think it would be the best to create these articles to cover Vas County.--City-busz (talk) 19:50, 4 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
    Thanks, that's useful. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:51, 4 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

    Pannonhalma

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    There's this really long listing in the article for GyƑr-Moson-Sopron County:

    • 1 Pannonhalma (Former: GyƑrszentmĂĄrton) (Approximately 20 km south of GyƑr. It can be reached by regular buses from the GyƑr main autobus station within half an hour, also by trains to VeszprĂ©m stop here). Benedictine Archabbey (MĂĄrton-hegyi ApĂĄtsĂĄg, part of the World Heritage list. Sights: The Basilica and the Crypt, the Library, the Millennium Monument, the Arboretum (Botanical Garden) and Herbal Garden, the Porta Speciosa and the Cloisters, the Baroque Refectory, Our Lady Chapel, Collections. Ticket office open: late Mar-Apr Oct-early Nov: Tu-Su 09:00–16:00; May: daily 09.00–16.00; Jun-Sep: daily 09:00–17:00; mid Nov- mid Mar: Tu-Su 10:00–15:00. Visitors are asked to leave the building in 1Âœ hours after the closure of the ticket office. Tickets: full price/reduced Ft 2000/1000 with audio guide, full price/reduced Ft 2500/1500 including tour in foreign languages. Organ concerts: Ft 2000 p.p. full price/reduced Ft 2500/1500 to the Botanical Garden including tour. Guided tour with tasting Benedictine herbal chocolate/liqueur (1 snifter/3 snifters) Ft 1700/1500/2500). FƑbĂ­rĂł House (Petöfi SĂĄndor utca, 9); Holocaust Memorial and Synagogue (SzabadsĂĄg Square, 1880s); Klement Krizosztom memorial stone (DĂłzsa György utca 1); Granary (at the beginning of MĂĄtyĂĄs kirĂĄly utca, 1800s); MajorsĂĄgi buildings (MĂĄtyĂĄs kirĂĄly utca 1, partly built in 1650), Roman Catholic Church (VĂĄralja 1 / a. Found in 6th century, remodeled in 1734 and 1880, the final shape and style in 1960); St. Stephen's relief (Petofi Sandor utca 61, 1896); Formerly convent of Saint-Vincent (SzabadsĂĄg tĂ©r, 21. 18th century, Baroque building ), Cemetery (RĂĄk utca, founded in 1759); City Hall (former village hall, DĂłzsa utca 10, Secession, 1910s - To 'Do': take a tour in the Pannonhalom Protected Area (7042 ha)- Tourinform Office (comprehensive tourist information. Address: VĂĄralja u. 3., Tel./fax:+36 96 960 072, E-mail: [email protected] Sep to May: M-F 09:00-17:00, Jun-Aug: M-F 09:00-17:00, Sa 10:00-15:00)

    I want to convert this listing to information in the article for Pannonhalma, but I find it hard to understand. From my research on Google Maps, it seems that many of the sights listed are at the abbey, but I'm not sure if they all are. Could you perhaps clarify that for me? Thanks! --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:47, 5 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

    The first part is about W:Pannonhalma Archabbey, which is the main sight of Pannonhalma. These are the individual items:
    • Benedictine Archabbey (MĂĄrton-hegyi ApĂĄtsĂĄg, part of the World Heritage list. Sights: The Basilica and the Crypt, the Library, the Millennium Monument, the Arboretum (Botanical Garden) and Herbal Garden, the Porta Speciosa and the Cloisters, the Baroque Refectory, Our Lady Chapel, Collections. Ticket office open: late Mar-Apr Oct-early Nov: Tu-Su 09:00–16:00; May: daily 09.00–16.00; Jun-Sep: daily 09:00–17:00; mid Nov- mid Mar: Tu-Su 10:00–15:00. Visitors are asked to leave the building in 1Âœ hours after the closure of the ticket office. Tickets: full price/reduced Ft 2000/1000 with audio guide, full price/reduced Ft 2500/1500 including tour in foreign languages. Organ concerts: Ft 2000 p.p. full price/reduced Ft 2500/1500 to the Botanical Garden including tour. Guided tour with tasting Benedictine herbal chocolate/liqueur (1 snifter/3 snifters) Ft 1700/1500/2500).
    • FƑbĂ­rĂł House (Petöfi SĂĄndor utca, 9)
    • Holocaust Memorial and Synagogue (SzabadsĂĄg Square, 1880s)
    • Klement Krizosztom memorial stone (DĂłzsa György utca 1)
    • Granary (at the beginning of MĂĄtyĂĄs kirĂĄly utca, 1800s)
    • MajorsĂĄgi buildings (MĂĄtyĂĄs kirĂĄly utca 1, partly built in 1650)
    • Roman Catholic Church (VĂĄralja 1 / a. Found in 6th century, remodeled in 1734 and 1880, the final shape and style in 1960)
    • St. Stephen's relief (Petofi Sandor utca 61, 1896)
    • Formerly convent of Saint-Vincent (SzabadsĂĄg tĂ©r, 21. 18th century, Baroque building)
    • Cemetery (RĂĄk utca, founded in 1759)
    • City Hall (former village hall, DĂłzsa utca 10, Secession, 1910s)
    • To 'Do': take a tour in the Pannonhalom Protected Area (7042 ha)
    • Tourinform Office (comprehensive tourist information. Address: VĂĄralja u. 3., Tel./fax:+36 96 960 072, E-mail: [email protected] Sep to May: M-F 09:00-17:00, Jun-Aug: M-F 09:00-17:00, Sa 10:00-15:00)
    --City-busz (talk) 18:04, 5 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
    Thanks, I will apply that, though not right now. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:17, 5 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

    You broke the mark-up generation for something..

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    By undoing my edits here: https://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Budapest/Zugl%C3%B3&oldid=3795254 you are causing Mediawiki to generate invalid HTML, because you are trying to insert block level elements such as a list, inside a portion of a template which is expecting single paragraphs. The listing template in its current form, cannot cope with multiple block level elements such as lists. I would strongly urge you to reformat and restructure the content so that the listing contains a SINGLE paragraph, which does not create issues for the Mediawiki backend. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:38, 12 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

    Thanks for the correction.--City-busz (talk) 23:12, 12 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

    An award for you!

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    The Wikivoyage Barncompass
    For thousands of edits improving our coverage of Hungarian destinations, here's an award for you! Ypsilon (talk) 14:57, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
    Hear, hear! Well deserved. Köszönöm, City-busz.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 15:00, 19 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

    Serious editing — good job!

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    This is what I call "serious editing". It requires stamina and has shown what a great impact you can make. Congratulations! Also, if you'd like to check out Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates, Nagykanizsa is listed. You may want to vote support or give some comments there. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 20:50, 6 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

    Community Insights Survey

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    RMaung (WMF) 14:34, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

    Reminder: Community Insights Survey

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    RMaung (WMF) 19:13, 20 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

    Reminder: Community Insights Survey

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    RMaung (WMF) 17:04, 4 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

    RĂ©tsĂĄg

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    Szia! Rétsåg miért nem része Nógråd megyének, és miért része Közép-Magyarorszågnak (nem is Pest megyének)? Balint36 (talk) 17:11, 30 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

    Szia! A Wikivoyage-en a közigazgatĂĄsi hatĂĄroktĂłl kissĂ© eltĂ©rƑ rĂ©giĂłkat alkalmazunk, hogy a turisztikai szempontbĂłl összetartozĂł terĂŒletek (Balaton, Tisza-tĂł, Dunakanyar) egy rĂ©giĂłba kerĂŒlhessenek. KorĂĄbban javasoltam, hogy a hivatalos turisztikai rĂ©giĂłk szerint csoportosĂ­tsuk a vĂĄrosokat. RĂ©tsĂĄg a terĂŒleti szĂĄmjelrendszerrƑl szĂłlĂł rendelet szerint a 01-es, azaz a w:hu:Budapest–KözĂ©p-Duna-vidĂ©k turisztikai rĂ©giĂł rĂ©sze (tĂ©rkĂ©pen). Ennek az elƑnye, hogy a Dunakanyar környĂ©ki telepĂŒlĂ©sek EsztergomtĂłl RĂ©tsĂĄgig egy rĂ©giĂłba kerĂŒlnek. TovĂĄbbi, folyamatban lĂ©vƑ javaslatom, hogy a Central Hungary rĂ©giĂłn belĂŒl hozzunk lĂ©tre egy önĂĄllĂł alrĂ©giĂłt a Dunakanyar szĂĄmĂĄra. --City-busz (talk) 17:32, 30 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

    Az Ășgy okĂ©s, hogy milyen turisztikai rĂ©giĂłba tartozik, de most a megvalĂłsĂ­tĂĄs igen kusza. Mert ahova RĂ©tsĂĄg ĂĄt lett rakva, az mĂ©giscsak a KözĂ©p-MagyarorszĂĄg elemĂ©hez van kötve. Jobb lenne a turisztikai rĂ©giĂł elemĂ©hez kötött oldalra csoportosĂ­tani. Balint36 (talk) 21:15, 30 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

    Ezt nem teljesen Ă©rtem. Jelenleg a Central Hungary szĂłcikk ĂĄltal lefedett terĂŒlet felel meg a Budapest–KözĂ©p-Duna-vidĂ©k turisztikai rĂ©giĂł terĂŒletĂ©vel. Milyen elemhez lenne jobb csoportosĂ­tani? Az oldal Wikidata ID-jĂĄra gondolsz? --City-busz (talk) 21:28, 30 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

    Budapest/East Pest

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    Üdv! ÁrpĂĄdföldet miĂ©rt vetted ki a közlekedĂ©sbƑl? Ha mĂĄs nem a TĂłth Ilonka HĂĄz Ă©s a CsokolĂĄdĂ© MĂșzeum (amĂșgy nem kiĂĄllĂ­tĂĄs) miatt sem elhanyagolhatĂł... Nem akarok belenyĂșlni a logikĂĄdba (nem is egĂ©szen lĂĄtom ĂĄt, amit most legutĂłbb csinĂĄltĂĄl), hozzĂĄ tudnĂĄd venni? ElƑbbi a 31-es MenyhĂ©rt utca, utĂłbbi 31-es ÁrpĂĄdföld, Bekecs utca ill. mindkettƑ H9 ÁrpĂĄdföld megĂĄllĂłktĂłl megközelĂ­thetƑ.

    Illetve lenne egy felvetĂ©sem... nem tudom mĂĄs, hagyomĂĄnyos turistaĂștvonalak mennek-e keresztĂŒl, de Ă©rdemes lenne a MĂĄria-utat megemlĂ­teni, elĂ©g nevezetes (RĂĄkosszentmihĂĄlyon indul Ă©s ÁrpĂĄdföldön megy keresztĂŒl pl. a RĂĄkosszentmihĂĄly - MĂĄriabesnyƑ zarĂĄndoklat, de szintĂ©n RsztmihĂĄlyrĂłl indul a mĂĄsik irĂĄnyba a RĂĄkosszentmihĂĄly - Budapest, Szt. IstvĂĄn Bazilika, illetve a M01/21 Budapest-Szent Anna-rĂ©t - RĂĄkosszentmihĂĄly szakasz) - turisztikai szempontbĂłl azt gondolom elĂ©g fontos. A XVII. kerĂŒletbe az OSM többet is jelöl (be kell pipĂĄlni a turistaĂștvonalakat), ill. Merzse mocsĂĄr kör, KeresztĂșri-erdƑ tanösvĂ©ny Ă©s futóösvĂ©ny vagy -kör. 84.2.221.51 14:48, 24 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

    Szia! A Get in szakasz alapvetƑen arrĂłl szĂłl, hogy hogyan lehet eljutni az adott kerĂŒletbe. EzĂ©rt nem feltĂ©tlenĂŒl tartom szĂŒksĂ©gesnek felsorolni az összes vĂĄrosrĂ©sz összes lehetsĂ©ges megközelĂ­tĂ©sĂ©t, mert szĂŒksĂ©gtelenĂŒl hosszĂș lenne a lista. Az egyes helyek pontos megközelĂ­tĂ©se kĂŒlön-kĂŒlön meg van adva, annyi szerintem elegendƑ.
    A zarĂĄndokĂșttal kapcsolatban nem igazĂĄn tudom, hogy Ă©rdemes-e itt kĂŒlön megemlĂ­teni, mivel kerĂŒleti szinten nem annyira jelentƑs. Mindenesetre az Understand szakaszban lehet rĂłla emlĂ­tĂ©st tenni, vagy esetleg a Get in > By foot szakasznĂĄl, hogy honnan hovĂĄ tart, mi a jelzĂ©se, de semmikĂ©pp sem Ă©rdemes utcĂĄrĂłl utcĂĄra felsorolni az ĂștvonalĂĄt.
    A Merzse-mocsĂĄr-tanösvĂ©ny megemlĂ­thetƑ a Merzse-mocsĂĄr listaelemĂ©nĂ©l, Ă©s a KeresztĂșri-erdƑrƑl is lehet egy listaelem.
    EgyĂ©bkĂ©nt javaslom, hogy regisztrĂĄlj az oldalon, Ă©s bejelentkezve szerkessz, hogy követhetƑk legyenek a szerkesztĂ©seid.--City-busz (talk) 17:07, 24 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

    Ahha... Akkor viszont Måtyåsföld és Cinkota is felesleges ott e logika mentén... nem?....

    KerĂŒleti szinten nem jelentƑs egy onnan több irĂĄnyba is indulĂł nemzetközi turista- Ă©s zarĂĄndokĂșthĂĄlĂłzat (ez utĂłbbibĂłl kiindulva tehĂĄt rendszeres Ă©s szervezett, ahogy az a linken is kitƱnik) szakaszai egy magĂĄt "travel guide"-kĂ©nt megnevezƑ oldalon?...

    Merzse, KeresztĂșri... ah... akkor a Sashalmi erdƑ kellene kĂŒlön "listaelem" legyen Ă©s a leĂ­rĂĄsban Ă­rni a tanösvĂ©nyrƑl?...

    AmĂșgy mi dönti el, hogy mi kerĂŒl a See Ă©s mi a Do rĂ©szbe?... nagyon nem ismerem itt ki magam... bocs!... Csak mert feltƱnt a Dozzi-villa kiemelĂ©se, pedig egy egĂ©sz könyvnyi van... Ă©rdemes kigyƱjteni?... vagy a kerĂŒletrƑl lehet/lesz kĂŒlön lap?

    A WikipĂ©diĂĄs azonosĂ­tĂł mƱködik itt is, vagy Ășjra kell regisztrĂĄlni? Bocs mĂ©g egyszer a sok kĂ©rdĂ©sĂ©rt! 84.2.244.122 17:56, 24 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

    @84.2.244.122: You can login to Wikivoyage using your Wikipedia username and password; we're both part of the Wikimedia family of websites.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:49, 24 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
    A logikĂĄm az, hogy csak a kerĂŒletközpontok belvĂĄrosbĂłl törtĂ©nƑ elĂ©rĂ©sĂ©t tĂŒntetem fel. A XVI. kerĂŒlet azĂ©rt problĂ©mĂĄs ilyen szempontbĂłl, mert nincs egyetlen központi csomĂłpontja, inkĂĄbb több kisebb keresztezƑdĂ©s van csak. Így alapvetƑen a kĂ©t irĂĄnyt Ă©rdemes szerintem feltĂŒntetni, azaz a Veres PĂ©ter Ășton ĂĄt a HÉV-et, valamint a Csömöri Ășton Ă©s a RĂĄkosi Ășton közlekedƑ buszokat.
    A MĂĄria Ășt egy egĂ©sz orszĂĄgos ĂșthĂĄlĂłzat. Én nem lĂĄtom sok Ă©rtelmĂ©t minden egyes Ă©rintett vĂĄros oldalĂĄn rĂ©szletesebben feltĂŒntetni. Ha szeretnĂ©l arrĂłl Ă­rni, akkor lĂ©trehozhatsz neki egy kĂŒlön oldalt. Itt lĂĄthatsz mĂĄs, hasonlĂł nevezetes Ăștvonalakat: Europe itineraries.
    A tanösvĂ©nyek emlĂ­tĂ©sĂ©re több lehetƑsĂ©g van. Ha nincs rĂłla sok informĂĄciĂł, illetve nincs kiemelt jelentƑsĂ©ge, akkor szerintem elĂ©g egy mondatban megemlĂ­teni az adott listaelem leĂ­rĂĄsĂĄnĂĄl. Ha viszont hosszabban Ă­rnĂĄl rĂłla, mert önmagĂĄban is jelentƑs, akkor Ă©rdemes kĂŒlön alpontkĂ©nt szerepeltetni.
    Az, hogy mi kerĂŒl a See Ă©s a Do szakaszba, itt tudod megnĂ©zni: Wikivoyage:Where you can stick it. Az összes villĂĄt nem kell megemlĂ­teni, hiszen nem mindegyik olyan jelentƑs, hogy mindenkĂ©ppen Ă©rdemes lenne megnĂ©zni. Én alapvetƑen a dĂ­szesebb, jobb ĂĄllapotban lĂ©vƑ, utcĂĄrĂłl is jĂłl lĂĄthatĂł villĂĄkat sorolnĂĄm fel. A teljes mƱemlĂ©ki lista pedig mehet a WikipĂ©diĂĄra. A kĂ©t kerĂŒletnek szerintem elĂ©g egy lap, legalĂĄbbis amĂ­g a XVII. kerĂŒletben alig van szĂĄllĂĄslehetƑsĂ©g, addig nem bontanĂĄm kĂŒlön.
    --City-busz (talk) 05:59, 25 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

    TĂ©ny, hogy ÁrpĂĄdföldnek aztĂĄn vĂ©gkĂ©pp nincs központi jellege Ă©s a kerĂŒlet nem is törekszik egy központ kialakĂ­tĂĄsĂĄra Ă©s ez Ă­gy is van jĂłl, egĂ©szsĂ©ges öntudattal rendelkezik minden kerĂŒletrĂ©sz, 70 Ă©v ide vagy oda. :o)

    RemĂ©lem nem veszed rossz nĂ©ven, amit Ă­rok... de mƱemlĂ©k speciel a XVI. kerĂŒletben (de Ă©rdekes mĂłdon a XVII.-ben is pont) összesen nĂ©gy van (helyi vĂ©dettsĂ©g alatt pedig beleĂ©rtve a szobrokat, kerĂ­tĂ©srĂ©szleteket Ă©s hatĂĄrköveket is, a XVI.-ban nincs 200). MegnĂ©zĂ©sre viszont Ă©pp elĂ©g szĂĄmĂș villa alkalmas a mĂ©g meg-megmaradtakbĂłl (2016-ban valamivel több, mint 100 volt belƑlĂŒk - a többit mĂĄr akkor jelentƑsen ĂĄtĂ©pĂ­tettĂ©k vagy lebontottĂĄk, a helyi vĂ©dettsĂ©g ez ellen semmit sem vĂ©d sajnos - de nyilvĂĄn Ă©n sem gondolnĂĄm az összeset felsorolni, csak amiknek neve is van - vĂ©gigfutottam a könyvet, 39 ilyen van, de ezek közĂŒl is lehet szanĂĄlni)... amĂșgy akĂĄr ebben a mƱsor-betekintƑben is jĂłl lĂĄthatĂł, hogy kellemes kikapcsolĂłdĂĄst nyĂșjt a környĂ©k Ă©s szĂĄmos Ă©pĂŒlet jĂłl lĂĄthatĂł, de Ă©pp jĂșnius 1-Ă©n is lesz egy KertvĂĄrosi IdƑutazĂł tĂșra, kizĂĄrĂłlag Ă©rdekes, az utcĂĄrĂłl is lĂĄthatĂł villĂĄk egy rĂ©szĂ©rƑl (kĂŒlönben egy egĂ©sz napot venne igĂ©nybe, hiszen az azok közötti tĂĄvolsĂĄgokat is figyelembe kell venni egy ilyen szervezett esemĂ©ny kapcsĂĄn, bĂĄr mesĂ©lni valĂł az "ĂŒresjĂĄratokon" van bƑven - Ă©n mĂ©g sajnos nem voltam ilyenen, de jĂłl ismerem a környĂ©ket)... szerintem nevetsĂ©ges kiemelni azt az egy szerencsĂ©tlen, szecessziĂłs dĂ­szĂ­tĂ©se miatt favorizĂĄlt (ĂșjsĂĄgba Ă©s mƱsorokba az ingatlanpiacra kerĂŒlĂ©se miatt kerĂŒlt) villĂĄt, amin hosszĂș Ă©vek Ăłta egy hatalmas eladĂł tĂĄbla "dĂ­szeleg". (BocsĂĄnat, de azon meg felnevettem, hogy "a templom nem villa"... miközben szerves rĂ©szĂ©t kĂ©pezte a villanegyed alakulĂĄsĂĄnak... Ă©s miközben nincs olyan rĂ©sztagolĂĄsa a szakasznak, hogy Ă­mĂ©, a templomok csak ide sorolhatĂłak, elengedtem.)

    MĂĄria-Ășt: (Nem is tudtam, hogy Salzburg, Częstochowa vagy GyimesfelsƑfok az orszĂĄg rĂ©sze, de mindig tanul az ember... azonban nem ezĂ©rt emlĂ­tettem, ha valaki akarja, a WikipĂ©dia lapja alapjĂĄn is megĂ­rhatja, Ă©n nem ezĂ©rt hoztam szĂłba) utoljĂĄra rugaszkodom neki: RĂĄkosszentmihĂĄly az indulĂł(illetve egy esetben vĂ©g) pontja több irĂĄnyba szakaszoknak, ehhez kapcsolĂłdĂłan (ha mĂĄr emlĂ­tetted a szĂĄllĂĄshelyeket) a plĂ©bĂĄniĂĄn szĂĄllĂĄslehetƑsĂ©ggel. De ha nem, nem... egyelƑre Ă©n nem ismerem ki magam itt annyira, te meg nem akarod...

    Ami a tanösvĂ©nyeket illeti, mivel Ă©n a XVI. kerĂŒletieket ismerem, az arĂĄnyossĂĄg miatt nĂ©ztem utĂĄna, hogy a mĂĄsik kerĂŒletben mik vannak, ha mĂĄr egybe vannak... És akkor ezennel ĂŒdv a becenevemen. :o) Fauvirt (talk) 15:03, 25 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

    Közben lĂĄtom, hogy 6 vĂ©dett villĂĄt hozzĂĄĂ­rtĂĄl. :o)) MĂĄr csak azt kĂ©ne eldönteni, hogy az elƑbb emlĂ­tett 39 okĂ©-e, vagy maradjon a 9 (bocs, a 10. a templom...), mĂ©g (amĂ­g a tulajaiknak nem nyƱg ez Ă©s ki nem vetetik....) helyi vĂ©dettsĂ©g alatti (de ezek közĂŒl nem mindnek van "neve") legyen-e fölsorolva, vagy maradjon ennyi vagy hogy legyen.. :o) Fauvirt (talk) 15:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

    Igen, azt lĂĄttam, hogy nincs sok orszĂĄgos vĂ©dettsĂ©gƱ mƱemlĂ©k, nyilvĂĄn a helyi vĂ©dettsĂ©gƱek közĂŒl Ă©rdemes vĂĄlogatni.
    Nem igazĂĄn tudom, hogy mit lehetne Ă­rni a MĂĄria ĂștrĂłl, max. annyit, hogy hovĂĄ tart, milyen utcĂĄkon halad stb. De ilyen leĂ­rĂĄs szerintem felesleges lenne egy kerĂŒleti oldalnĂĄl. Ha valakit Ă©rdekelnek a zarĂĄndokutak, az Ășgyis az arrĂłl szĂłlĂł oldalon keresnĂ©.
    39 villa semmikĂ©pp se legyen felsorolva. :) TeljeskörĂŒ, enciklopĂ©diaszerƱ felsorolĂĄsok mehetnek a WikipĂ©diĂĄra, Ă©s ott bĂĄrki megnĂ©zheti, akit mĂ©lyebben Ă©rdekel a tĂ©ma. A Wikivoyage viszont egy Ăștikönyv, ami legjellegzetesebb helyeket igyekszik kiemelni az utazĂł szĂĄmĂĄra. 6–9 villa 2–3 mondatos jellemzĂ©sekkel elegendƑ szerintem. A belvĂĄrosban a NagykörĂșton sem lenne Ă©rtelme felsorolni a több szĂĄz helyi vĂ©dettsĂ©gƱ Ă©pĂŒletet. A Wikivoyage Ă©s a WikipĂ©dia közti kĂŒlönbsĂ©gekrƑl Ă©rdemes elolvasni ezt az oldalt: Wikivoyage:Welcome, Wikipedians.
    --City-busz (talk) 15:54, 25 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

    VillĂĄk:beszĂ©lek egy helytörtĂ©nĂ©sszel meg egy Ă©pĂ­tĂ©sszel, hogy melyik 6-9-et Ă©rdemes kiemelni, ha ebben benne vagy. Az amĂșgy is kĂ©plĂ©keny helyi vĂ©dett Ă©pĂŒletekhez (szobornĂĄl sem jelent semmit, 2 szobor is megsemmisĂŒlt mĂĄr) nem ragaszkodnĂ©k - inkĂĄbb az Ă©rdekessĂ©geket emelnĂ©m ki. MĂĄria-Ășt - utĂĄnanĂ©zek mi a "mĂłdi", a lehetƑsĂ©g itt, aztĂĄn jelzem, he kifundĂĄltam. Fauvirt (talk) 21:31, 25 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

    OkĂ©, bĂĄr nem muszĂĄj ennyire tudomĂĄnyos alapokra helyezni. :) Ha picit többre sikerĂŒl, mĂ©g mindig lehet belƑle elvenni, esetleg szomszĂ©dos helyeket összevonni stb. NyilvĂĄn van jĂłnĂ©hĂĄny villa, ami elhanyagolt, benƑtte a gaz, esetleg ĂĄtĂ©pĂ­tĂ©sre kerĂŒlt, Ă©s ez Ă©vrƑl Ă©vre vĂĄltozhat. --City-busz (talk) 06:42, 26 May 2020 (UTC)Reply


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