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This is a travel guide. Industrial parks don't get their own articles on this site. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:05, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, this industrial park is a tourist site that my family visited in summer. This is very popular for the locals and we want to broadcast to the foreigners. I think this site should be there. Did you delete my post??? 174.166.134.4 12:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I did delete your stub article. In addition to the links I gave you above, especially welcome, Wikipedians, please read Wikivoyage:What is an article and Wikivoyage:Article skeleton templates (Zhangjiajie National Forest Park probably does merit its own article, but it needs a proper Wikivoyage:Park article template, not the stub you started, so please insert a Wikivoyage:Quick park article template into that article and use the section headers built into that template). When you post a stub article that mentions encyclopedic facts about an industrial park, it doesn't seem possible that it could merit its own article. Even if it's an interesting site, read what is an article and make sure it shouldn't just be a listing in the article for the nearest town. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:11, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Then again, the industrial park has 4 areas that are open to tourists that I myself visited that should be Wikivoyage-worthy. I didn't write about them yet because it was bedtime, and you deleted it while I was sleeping. CrunchLabs (talk) 22:39, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Undo the last reply. That was made by my brother. CrunchLabs (talk) 22:50, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I can undelete the article, but please insert an appropriate template, likely Wikivoyage:Small city article template (use the Wikivoyage:Quick small city article template), briefly state what's interesting to travelers about the place in the lede (introduction), and try to avoid too much encyclopedic language. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yili Health Valley is restored, with a "stub" tag that you should delete after you insert the appropriate article template (and if it's really more of a park, insert a park template, instead). Sorry about the deletion. No problem with the content of your brother's reply, but please guard your password, for security reasons: I'd advise you to change it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- CrunchLabs, how did you get there? what did you see there? What is there for visitors to do? Where did you eat while you were there? Did you stay in a hotel or a guesthouse? Adding this information to the article could make it a travel article. It isn't one now. Ground Zero (talk) 12:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Like he said. User:CrunchLabs, do you have any plans to turn that and the Zhangjiajie National Forest Park stub into real articles? If not, we may have to nominate them for deletion, but we're happy to give you time if you intend to do more work on them. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I do have more time. I was just studying for another event, which limits my time editing my article. CrunchLabs (talk) 01:53, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Like he said. User:CrunchLabs, do you have any plans to turn that and the Zhangjiajie National Forest Park stub into real articles? If not, we may have to nominate them for deletion, but we're happy to give you time if you intend to do more work on them. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- CrunchLabs, how did you get there? what did you see there? What is there for visitors to do? Where did you eat while you were there? Did you stay in a hotel or a guesthouse? Adding this information to the article could make it a travel article. It isn't one now. Ground Zero (talk) 12:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yili Health Valley is restored, with a "stub" tag that you should delete after you insert the appropriate article template (and if it's really more of a park, insert a park template, instead). Sorry about the deletion. No problem with the content of your brother's reply, but please guard your password, for security reasons: I'd advise you to change it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
What not to include in a travel guide, and a question
[edit]Thanks, I appreciate that you're adding more content to the stubs you started, but keep in mind what is and is not interesting to travelers. Middle schools are rarely tourist attractions and a hospital that's not even open yet certainly doesn't rate a mention, let alone a bunch of encyclopedic details.
Now, a question. You say "Yili Health Valley is in Hohhot." Is it part of Hohhot city? Then why should it have its own article? Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:36, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- This article does not include important travel information, like how to get there. When I looked that up in Wikipedia, I found that visitors can get there on Hohhot's Metro Line 1. I thinkmit would be more useful to incorporate the relevant information from this article into the Hohhot article, instead of having a separate article. Ground Zero (talk) 14:16, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- It sure sounds that way. Maybe it might merit a section, rather than just a simple listing, once it's clear what is really interesting to visitors about it, but right now, the stub article doesn't make that clear at all. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:45, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
I need formatting for the Zhangjiajie National Forest Park article
[edit]This has to do with "Get around". I'm trying to list bus routes because you can get around by bus in the park, but you deleted this. Surely there must be a clear explanation. When you give me it, please give me tips for how to format. I really need to do this before Asian Month ends. CrunchLabs (talk) 13:21, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You may need this for Asisn Month, but that doesn't mean that you can dump text into articles and expect others to clean up after you. It looks like you copied it directly from somewhere else. See wv:copyvio. Ikan Kekek provided links above so that you can learn how to edit in Wikivoyage.
- Look at this one line:
- "Golden Whip to Avatar Mountain. 4.8. •3.9 mi. •Est. 2h 18m."
- Read wv:units to see how we format time durations in Wikivoyage.
- What is "4.8"?
- What does "Est." mean?
- We don't use • in Wikivoyage.
- You can try again if you format the text properly.
- Ground Zero (talk) 15:06, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the advice. 4.8 is the overall rating defined by collecting reviews from hikers.
- Est. means estimated time.
- What do you use instead of bullet points? CrunchLabs (talk) 13:15, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Don't explain these things to me. Explain them to the people reading your article.
- It is better to spell out a word in full than to use an abbreviation if the abbreviation is not clear.
- Do you need bullet points here? I don't think you do. We do use bulleted lists, but we don't use bullet points in the middle of a sentence in English. Ground Zero (talk) 20:34, 19 January 2025 (UTC)