User talk:Matroc Voyage Tips and guide

19:25, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

	The Wikivoyage Barncompass
	This Barncompass is to show appreciation for your great work on Wikivoyage, especially in connection with Wikidata. --Syced (talk) 08:58, 13 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Think should be moved, without leaving redirect, to Natural wonders of India/sandbox --Traveler100 (talk) 07:00, 6 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

We don't want it in articlespace of any kind as long as it contains copyvio. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:03, 6 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Traveler100 & Ikan Kekek Sandbox/Natural wonders of India is currently being developed for newer content for review. I will copy out origninal and put it on one of my user pages -- Matroc (talk) 07:30, 6 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

We need to delete the Natural wonders of India article to remove the copyvio from its history. Of course we can and should await the results of the Vfd nomination. I should ask, have you done similar things (copypasta/very slight paraphrasing) in any other articles? Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:48, 6 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Ikan Kekek Ok - finished reworking main section of National wonders of India in a Sandbox. I know I did copy text from existing wikivoyage articles for the (UNESCO World Heritage List (India). To avoid any issues I will go through all the pages I created; copy pages to sandboxes etc., comment out all text in the pages and redo entries (readd them) one at time to insure we won't have any issues just to make sure. -- Matroc (talk) 09:03, 6 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Text from other Wikivoyage articles is not a copyright problem, I think, though I imagine there could be some kind of Google penalty for lack of originality (but I'm not sure that obtains within sites). Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:07, 6 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Actually, I misspoke (mistyped): Yes, unless the source article is mentioned, it's a problem, because all the people in the source article's history should be credited with their work. However, I don't think it would be an issue at all if you simply mentioned on the talk pages of the relevant articles that the include text from x or y Wikivoyage article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:48, 6 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Ikan Kekek Good thought! ... I have started working on those topics I created. Thanks! -- Matroc (talk) 09:53, 6 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Is it all good and OK now? @Ikan Kekek: are you okay with Matroc's changes? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 03:09, 4 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

I'm sorry; I don't have time to look at this now. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:11, 4 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

That's okay with me. Whenever you can. In the meantime, what should I do with the copy of Natural wonders of India that's currently still showing as a copyvio, as I understand? Should I delete for now? Currently the vfd discussion is still live. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 03:16, 4 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Per policy, it has to be deleted, but Matroc needs to keep a record of who contributed to the article in licit ways, because the cleansed version will presumably include some of their contributions. And we will need to check to make sure the version that's said to be cleansed really is devoid of copyvio. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:53, 4 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Moved to User:Matroc/Sandbox/Natural wonders of India --Traveler100 (talk) 06:43, 23 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

Please be careful when correcting phone numbers. Here you added the call prefix for Japan, but without removing the trunk prefix "0". The resulting number will probably not work (I suppose it could in theory, depending on number plans and implementation), but how to correct it (or indeed that it needs correction) is no longer apparent. The leading zero in trunk codes should for most countries be removed in the international format, check Wikivoyage:Telephone numbers or the country's Connect section for exceptions. --LPfi (talk) 11:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

• LPfi - Thanks, I usually do remove the leading zero -- Matroc (talk) 21:02, 10 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Some of the current most prominent itinerary articles at Hebvoy (to which we link from the main page) are missing the actual route from the dynamic map.

I remember you are an expert in this field. I want the following articles to have a route like we do in the dynamic map of this article.

• מסלול הטיול בעין גדי
• מסלול הטיול בנחל עמוד
• שביל הגולן -- Golan Trail - not all of the track is available OSM
• שביל עמק המעיינות
• מסלול הטיול בנחל זוויתן Ein Gede has none for trail/track
• שביל ישו -- The Jesus Trail - the main trail is available but the alternate return trail is not - See Talk Page for the Jesus Trail - English Wikivoyage.
• טרק אל מחנה הבסיס הדרומי של הר אוורסט
• טרק סובב אנאפורנה

In many cases routes exist for these places in OSM. if I click on the "Hiking" layer for these articles at the dynamic maps in Hebvoy I can see that there exists a route. Do you think you could help me get this become automatically displayed by becoming items available to fetch through wikidata, like we did in this article? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 14:13, 20 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

I am not an expert, if we can get the coordinates, I think I could make a Data file in Commons to use. I do not know where the Hiking coordinates come from. The Golan Trail in OSM is not complete and another one I checked did not have any coordinates. If I remember correctly, we made a Commons Data file for Sea to Sea from a GPX file? At this time not much help but will keep looking... -- Matroc (talk) 04:42, 23 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Okay thanks. I'll try to ask at the Travellers' pub. ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 13:50, 27 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Swept in from the pub

• With my limited vision, I find it difficult to locate phone and email on pages using the newer icons in listings... At least, can darker ones be used... Matroc (talk) 06:25, 4 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

See Template talk:Listing#phone symbol for discussion about this. —Granger (talk · contribs) 06:52, 5 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

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RMaung (WMF) 17:04, 4 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

What happened? No disambiguation is needed, so I reverted your name change and then changed it to simply Mifflintown. Why are you editing a separate Mifflintown (Pennsylvania) article? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:32, 22 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

• We were editing at the same time -- can you delete Mifflintown (Pennsylvania)? -- Matroc (talk) 02:34, 22 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Sure. I was thinking you could, and then I realized you're not an admin. Would you like to be one, or if not, a Patroller? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:37, 22 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

We experienced a unique timing thing as far as Mifflintown goes lol. Thanks for the kind offer but I would have to decline at this time -- again thank you! (sorry was away from computer when you posted last msg,.)

Hey Matroc, in Canada and the US, numbers with the following area codes are toll-free: 800, 888, 877, 866, 855, 844, and 833. The "1" must always be dialled before the area code, so we format them with a hyphen,e.g. "+1-888-393-4589". Please stop removing the hyphen from numbers with 800, 888, 877, 866, 855, 844, or 833 area codes. Thank you. Ground Zero (talk) 03:36, 14 July 2020 (UTC).Reply

• @Ground Zero:- Thanks - Gotcha - Matroc (talk) 05:03, 14 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • I checked some of my notes and remembered looking at several articles and they didn't use a hyphen (-) after the +1 for toll free numbers. Thanks for correcting that.

Hi there! I noticed this edit. Actually, when a region isn't divided into subregions on Wikivoyage, there is no limit to how many city articles should be listed in the article - all in the region should be listed. If that produces an overly long list, the division of the region could be a good solution, but it doesn't always work. As an intermediate measure, subregions could be put in different subsections of the "Cities" section. But I think alphabetic order would probably be easiest to see in that article, as long as the region isn't divided into subregions. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:56, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

• Ikan Kekek -- Will take a while but will try and arrange things a bit over time. Thanks - the articles are not listed in sub-regions so I will alphabetize for the moment and do things 1 step at a time - Matroc (talk) 07:02, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wonderful! Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:49, 19 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

For some reason the prefectures of Nagano and Niigata are not highlighted on the Chubu map can you fix it, Thank you! Tai123.123 (talk) 18:50, 13 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

• I don't think I can fix this .... problem may be with OpenStreetMaps - for the most part I found the wikidata link is there --- in Wikidata the Open Street ID is not always present (I was told that this was not necessary though I thought it was). Some of the Wikidata records have a geoshape file link. (Data file with the mapframe coordinate info which is not that useful for what you are presently doing. ie. Data:Japan/Nagano.map). I have had a couple issues which appeared after an edit or some change in OpenStreetMaps. Best wishes.... (Possible that the polygon (shape) is not closed correctly) —The preceding comment was added by Matroc (talk • contribs) 06:29, 14 August 2021
  • As a test - I added Nagano OpenStreetID - 3560284 to wikidata -- check to see if that works in a few days -- Matroc (talk) 20:33, 14 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Thank you Tai123.123 (talk) 05:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi Matroc, I just noticed that you added a Wikidata id to a vicinity marker. What function does it serve? Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 12:16, 23 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

• If wikidata and no lat/long then coordinates retrieved from wikidata.
• If lat/long then those coordinates are used instead of retrieving from wikidata
• In this case wikidata parameter can be used as reference -- Matroc (talk) 05:10, 24 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

You have pocked around at maps before. I see the pop up for enabling external resources. Do you know how this pop up works? Am wanting to use something similar for another project. Travel Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 11:35, 29 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hi - Not sure how pop up for enabling external resources works. Please excuse my ignorance but is there an example somewhere? I could look and see what I can find. Matroc (talk) 02:27, 5 August 2023 (UTC)Reply