Votes for deletion
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October 2025
[edit]This article has been sitting for more than ten months as just a list of major cities with no information. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 02:55, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
Delete per nom unless it's made useful within 14 days.Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:38, 2 October 2025 (UTC)- Delete, per nomination. Ground Zero (talk) 04:11, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
Deleteas abandoned. 10 months is more than enough time. //shb (t | c | m) 13:14, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Switching to a weak keep. //shb (t | c | m) 08:24, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Delete. Pashley (talk) 23:58, 2 October 2025 (UTC)- Comment: The Old towns article used to have a list of old towns of the world, but that list had hundreds of items. It looked like this. I am not sure whether any list of old towns, with or without geographic borders, would be useful. /Yvwv (talk) 12:28, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I have added brief descriptions to the list of towns. I expect that there are more Greek old towns worth a mention, as the country has history going back to what may have been the first western towns. —The preceding comment was added by AlasdairW (talk • contribs) 22:09, October 4, 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate your help, but in my view, this gets to the core of the issue. From a traveler's perspective, the article still doesn't answer any of my core questions: where are the key sites? How do I get to them? Why do these places stand out over other old towns in Greece/Cyprus I could visit? Can I visit all these sites in a week or a month? Are there particular locations I should prioritize? --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 22:38, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Right, but I think there's enough content already not to delete, ergo keep. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:40, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- The car-free destinations article has a list of destinations which could potentially include many of the world's old towns. We should have general guidelines for the cases where international lists of destinations can be useful, and when they are just a burden. /Yvwv (talk) 08:06, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- At the very least, they must be annotated. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:50, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- The car-free destinations article has a list of destinations which could potentially include many of the world's old towns. We should have general guidelines for the cases where international lists of destinations can be useful, and when they are just a burden. /Yvwv (talk) 08:06, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Right, but I think there's enough content already not to delete, ergo keep. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:40, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate your help, but in my view, this gets to the core of the issue. From a traveler's perspective, the article still doesn't answer any of my core questions: where are the key sites? How do I get to them? Why do these places stand out over other old towns in Greece/Cyprus I could visit? Can I visit all these sites in a week or a month? Are there particular locations I should prioritize? --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 22:38, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Looking at Old_towns#Destinations I find that it consists of dozens of links to articles with titles of the form "Old towns of ..." & currently those links are all blue. Checking the talk page I see that this arrangement was arrived at after extensive discussion. So now I question whether we should delete any of these. Pashley (talk) 15:32, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Has also been sitting for more than ten months as just a list of major cities with no information. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 02:58, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom unless it's made useful within 14 days. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:38, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, per nomination. Ground Zero (talk) 04:11, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as above. //shb (t | c | m) 13:15, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
Delete. Pashley (talk) 23:58, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
Two more pages like the above nominations with no travel information. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 04:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete like the others. List articles without annotation are for Wikipedia. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:19, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as per the other two nominations. //shb (t | c | m) 10:08, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Ground Zero (talk) 12:23, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
Redundant to Keibul Lamjao National Park, which basically covers the same lake with the floating national park in addition. So, merge its content to Keibul Lamjao National Park. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 07:30, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Keibul Lamjao National Park if it's going to have content that's being merged. //shb (t | c | m) 08:33, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Definitely not delete! I do not know the area so cannot tell if lake & park should be separate articles, or one redirected. My guess would be that a park->lake (particular part to more general article) redirect makes more sense than lake->park.
- I'd like to hear from @Haoreima: who wrote much of both articles. Pashley (talk) 17:46, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy keep. If you are proposing a merge, this is not the place to discuss that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:25, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep The lake itself spans over a large area of natural sites and human settlements, covering shoreline regions of multiple towns and cities. On another hand, the national park is an independent entity with some of its geographical areas located under the jurisdiction of the lake. Lake >> National park, and not national park >> lake. Neither of these can be suitable to be merged into either topics. @Pashley Thanks for the reminder! :-) Haoreima (talk) 07:07, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- The problem is that there is a lot of repetition between the two articles. How do you plan to avoid that? Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:57, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Lake focussed topics can be kept only in the lake article and national park topics in the national park. Encroached topics can be trimmed as separate articles exist. Some unavoidable common themes can be kept as such. Please feel free to trim wherever necessary. :-) Haoreima (talk) 07:08, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps would it make more sense to combine them in one article but use section headers within to distinguish what's in the lake and what's not? //shb (t | c | m) 08:24, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Lake focussed topics can be kept only in the lake article and national park topics in the national park. Encroached topics can be trimmed as separate articles exist. Some unavoidable common themes can be kept as such. Please feel free to trim wherever necessary. :-) Haoreima (talk) 07:08, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- The problem is that there is a lot of repetition between the two articles. How do you plan to avoid that? Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:57, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to the national park article, or the other way around. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 01:47, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Yet another cross-namespace redirect to consider. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 07:34, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 13:07, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Pashley (talk) 15:03, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Austria. AT is the ISO 639 country code for Austria, so I do think it's a plausible search term. //shb (t | c | m) 03:48, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with you. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:51, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
Another XNR, could be an actual place name. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 18:34, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Vigo (or Galicia). Mos is a municipality on the edge of Vigo Airport east of Vigo. The place should be mentioned wherever it redirects as well. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 18:46, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Vigo per SC. //shb (t | c | m) 08:23, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Another XNR, could be the ISO country code for French Polynesia. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 18:36, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
^ Delete. If we did need a cross-namespace redirect to Wikivoyage:Plunge_forward, which I don't think we do, then I'd prefer just "plunge". Pashley (talk) 20:04, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to French Polynesia per nom. //shb (t | c | m) 21:47, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- That makes sense, I guess. It probably wouldn't be a common search term in _English_ Wikivoyage, but it wouldn't hurt. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:49, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- ISO codes are pretty universal, IMO. I've also never seen FP being used to refer to French Polynesia, only PF, even in English (though I suppose not a place that comes up often in English since most people would just say Tahiti or Bora Bora even though they refer to specific islands). //shb (t | c | m) 08:22, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- That makes sense, I guess. It probably wouldn't be a common search term in _English_ Wikivoyage, but it wouldn't hurt. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:49, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I'm not convinced this would be a search term for French Polynesia. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 01:45, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
A rather astonishing cross-namespace redirect (XNR). Should redirect to common scams or similar. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 18:40, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect per nomination, although a specific article addressing touts could be a good idea as they're not necessarily scammers. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 18:42, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:56, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- I do use this redirect fairly often, so I lean toward keep, but I could live without it if there's a consensus to delete or redirect elsewhere.
- For a redirect in main space, I don't like a redirect to scams since as mentioned above not all touts are scammers. Perhaps to Shopping#Bad_places which does mention touts. Or make a section on touts in the Shopping article & redirect there. I do not think there's enough to say (yet?) about touting to justify a separate article. Pashley (talk) 19:38, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, a separate article for tips for dealing with persistent touts when you travel could certainly be useful. --Ypsilon (talk) 19:42, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to common scams]. //shb (t | c | m) 21:47, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I have started Touts. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 20:35, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! Let's redirect this term there. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:11, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Awesome. If there aren't any more objections in the next 48 hours, shall we speedy close this since it's not going to be deleted? //shb (t | c | m) 21:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Given that touts has been created (bravo!) I'd say the redirect is not needed & tout should still be deleted. Pashley (talk) 22:43, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Awesome. If there aren't any more objections in the next 48 hours, shall we speedy close this since it's not going to be deleted? //shb (t | c | m) 21:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! Let's redirect this term there. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:11, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Another XNR, could be the ISO language code for Greek. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 18:51, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Seems too confusing, as it means "the" in Spanish. Might be best to delete. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:56, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Whether the better cross-namespace redirect xl might be deleted is debatable (I'd say no) but this one should certainly go. Pashley (talk) 19:49, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- In addition to masculine "the" in Spanish, I think it's also some definite article in Arabic, plus in colloquial Swedish it means electricity :D . Delete. --Ypsilon (talk) 19:56, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, an alternate transliteration for "al", Arabic for "the". El also means elevated train, as for example in Chicago. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:48, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. //shb (t | c | m) 21:48, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 01:44, 9 October 2025 (UTC)