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January 2025
[edit]Industrial parks aren't covered on Wikivoyage per WV:WIAA, queries on the talk page have gone unanswered for almost 2 weeks. --SHB (t | c | m) 02:45, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Hohhot. No content needs to merged, I would argue, but the place has received some press coverage, so might as well send it to the city article of which it is a part. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 04:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete without a redirect. Unless we are planning on including any mention of this industrial park in the Hohhot article, it doesn't make sense to redirect the term. And if we did mention it, what would we say?Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:47, 19 January 2025 (UTC)- I would prefer your [Ikan's] option too – allowing redirects for industrial parks but not say major malls would only beg the question of where we draw the line for what gets a redirect and what doesn't. --SHB (t | c | m) 07:47, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't oppose redirects for malls in every case, if they are mentioned in articles. If someone erroneously created an article for a mall that was then covered as a listing somewhere, a redirect would be fine. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah I think those are fine, but I also wouldn't go intentionally creating redirects for them either tbf. --SHB (t | c | m) 08:19, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I generally agree. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:22, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah I think those are fine, but I also wouldn't go intentionally creating redirects for them either tbf. --SHB (t | c | m) 08:19, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't oppose redirects for malls in every case, if they are mentioned in articles. If someone erroneously created an article for a mall that was then covered as a listing somewhere, a redirect would be fine. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I would prefer your [Ikan's] option too – allowing redirects for industrial parks but not say major malls would only beg the question of where we draw the line for what gets a redirect and what doesn't. --SHB (t | c | m) 07:47, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree. If people see redirects from malls and industrial parks, they will create more. If content exists on a mall or industrial park within an article, a search will find it without a redirect. Ground Zero (talk) 09:57, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- We can deal with these when they come up, but if any content is taken from an article, it has to be redirected in order to keep the article's history. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:29, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I did create a redlink for Industry in San Gabriel Valley of Los Angeles. It should probably be mentioned in the article of some adjacent location instead of having its own article – I suppose mentioning it in bold in the one-liner of that other location, or as a subbullet, would otherwise be ideal, but its name makes it very difficult to find by a search if it doesn't have a page of its own (a redirect or perhaps just a disambig). As I don't know the place, I did't do anything myself, other than changing a bullet just name-dropping it into a proper listing with redlink and one-liner based on Wikipedia. –LPfi (talk) 10:24, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree. If people see redirects from malls and industrial parks, they will create more. If content exists on a mall or industrial park within an article, a search will find it without a redirect. Ground Zero (talk) 09:57, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. While User:CrunchLabs asserted on their talk page that "the industrial park has 4 areas that are open to tourists that I myself visited that should be Wikivoyage-worthy" two weeks ago, they have not explained what those 4 areas are. I have lost patience. Ground Zero (talk) 10:01, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I am restoring your patience today. CrunchLabs (talk) 14:16, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
Either keep orturn it into a listing & redirect. It is a real place, apparently there are tours available, & we have someone who wants to write about it. I cannot see it being much of a draw for the typical tourist, but it might be of considerable interest to people in the dairy industry. Even if the article is actually pretty much useless, keeping it does no harm. Pashley (talk) 19:08, 19 January 2025 (UTC)- Your evidence that there is someone who will actually write anything travel-related about it? What in the stub article says "listing" to you? Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I was going to say what Ikan said, but Ikan beat me to it – what about it makes it that "keeping it does no harm"? --SHB (t | c | m) 21:28, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Actually, I just checked, and there is now some actual content in the stub, so I do think this can be merged and redirected to Hohhot. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:36, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I would note that Yili Health Valley is also a station on the local metro line. That's, to me, another argument in favor of a redirect rather than deletion. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 21:40, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Actually, I just checked, and there is now some actual content in the stub, so I do think this can be merged and redirected to Hohhot. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:36, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- I was going to say what Ikan said, but Ikan beat me to it – what about it makes it that "keeping it does no harm"? --SHB (t | c | m) 21:28, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, yes, but in large-area prefectural-level cities like Hohhot, people usually think about the central city, not the surrounding area that is also part of the city proper. And since Yili Health Valley is part of Tumed Left Banner, which is a banner, not a district of the urban area, people will think it is not part of Hohhot. So they will not go to the Hohhot page. I say we keep it as it was. CrunchLabs (talk) 13:54, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Your evidence that there is someone who will actually write anything travel-related about it? What in the stub article says "listing" to you? Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- If we put the information in a listing & create a redirect from this article title to that listing, then anyone searching for "Yili .." or following a link to it will find the listing. Pashley (talk) 14:14, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- And it is a listing. It isn't a city, a park, or an attraction that's so overwhelmingly complex like Angkor Wat that it couldn't possibly function as a listing. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:18, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- If we put the information in a listing & create a redirect from this article title to that listing, then anyone searching for "Yili .." or following a link to it will find the listing. Pashley (talk) 14:14, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- It looks like this could be a listing in Hohhot, but at the moment we are missing the actual visitor information. Is Yili Intelligent Manufacturing Experience Center open to visitors who turn up at the door (or are bookings required), when is it open, what does it cost, where is it (lat/long), are there tours in English etc? Such a large dairy factory could be of interest to visit, if really welcomes foreign visitors. The rest of the valley (ecological park etc) could probably be covered in a sentence in the Experience Centre listing. AlasdairW (talk) 21:36, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- It can be listed if it merely welcomes domestic visitors, too, however frustrating that might be to some foreigner. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:37, 19 January 2025 (UTC)