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Gulf of Mexico
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- No. Per Wikivoyage:Naming conventions, we care only about what names are most used in English. Official names are of no relevance. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Some Americans will call it "Gulf of America", others will call it "Gulf of How does this Lower the Price of Eggs?". Until it catches on in the U.S. we needn't worry about it. Ground Zero (talk) 18:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Also no – I doubt many people will fall onto Trump's stupidity. --SHB (t | c | m) 21:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- No. One analogous case is Persian Gulf where we have the text:
- "Persian Gulf" has been the usual term in English for centuries; this goes back at least to the Romans calling it "Sinus Persicus". It is sometimes also called the "Arabian Gulf", mainly in Arab countries.
- As I see it we might at most need a similar comment on "Gulf of America" if and when that term comes into general use. As GZ says, we certainly should not worry about it yet, Pashley (talk) 22:38, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Haha, I had a feeling this was going to come up. I agree with everyone else. Trump is just playing politics at this point. Let's stick with solely calling it the Gulf of Mexico unless this or some other term becomes widespread. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 22:46, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Another analogous case would be the South China Sea, which Filipinos call the West Philippine Sea and Vietnamese call the East Sea. But OK, I'm happy to wait and see if "Gulf of America" actually gains traction the U.S. If it turns out that Democrats stick with "Gulf of Mexico" while Republicans adopt "Gulf of America" (which is certainly possible given the polarisation of American politics), then it becomes a more complex issue as to what to call it. The dog2 (talk) 23:51, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Haha, I had a feeling this was going to come up. I agree with everyone else. Trump is just playing politics at this point. Let's stick with solely calling it the Gulf of Mexico unless this or some other term becomes widespread. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 22:46, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Absolutely not. Mrkstvns (talk) 00:28, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- As with anything political motivated, let's wait and see what status is after the midterm election. 90.233.200.244 15:07, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I doubt things will suddenly change in 2026 either. --SHB (t | c | m) 02:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Suddenly?! I don't think so either, it's either descent or ascent from here. 95.203.20.51 03:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Point being US federal midterm elections aren't likely to cause a shift in usage. --SHB (t | c | m) 03:15, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Point being that midterm election will be the benchmark compared to now. 95.203.20.51 03:26, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Okay buddy. Whatever you say. --SHB (t | c | m) 04:55, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Point being that midterm election will be the benchmark compared to now. 95.203.20.51 03:26, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Point being US federal midterm elections aren't likely to cause a shift in usage. --SHB (t | c | m) 03:15, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Suddenly?! I don't think so either, it's either descent or ascent from here. 95.203.20.51 03:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- I doubt things will suddenly change in 2026 either. --SHB (t | c | m) 02:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- A similar example is Erdoğan’s edict changing Turkey into Türkiye. That makes a bit more sense as it was already in use for branding and marketing including for tourism, but “Turkey” is entrenched in common English usage, and Erdoğan can’t mandate otherwise. And Turkey has no plans to start calling its neighbours by their local-language names, which (working clockwise) are Ελλάδα, България, საქართველო, Հայաստան, Azerbaycan, العراق and سوريا. Grahamsands (talk) 15:06, 25 January 2025 (UTC)