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St Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
[edit]Hey everyone. Why is St Helena not part of the African article? I understand why it is referenced in "Islands of the Atlantic Ocean" but shouldn't it be parented in this article? For example, Bermuda is on the Islands article as well but belongs under Caribbean. Similarly, Azores is mentioned but parented by Portugal (as it should). St Helena is included in the African UN geoscheme. Also, flights/boats to St Helena arrive from Africa (with a few month+ exceptions that start from South America). Marathonian (talk) 21:47, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Surely Lagos should be on the list of important cities. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 20:15, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- Talk:Africa/Archive 2013-2018#Lagos instead of Luanda is relevant to this discussion. I will leave it up to you whether to unarchive the thread for the purpose of this discussion, but that would be a reasonable thing to do if you think it would be helpful. There's also an earlier discussion, Talk:Africa/Archive 2004-2012#Cities and Other Destinations. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:04, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Accra description
[edit]In the archives, Talk:Africa/Archive_2013-2018#Which cities to list it is said that "Accra is well-visited enough to stay. I have nothing to say about that, but I think it is odd that the one-liner just says it is the capital of Ghana, and the article's Understand adds little to that, but it having a quite long history (no mentioning whether anything from that history remains). Why is it well-visited? What would be the reason for me to go there? --LPfi (talk) 09:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- There are some sights mentioned in Accra#See. I couldn't say what's most worthwhile to do there, though, as I haven't been there. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:10, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Some of the descriptions hint they really are worthwhile, but only if they are in a destination that is described as important in itself. Some museum descriptions could be used in a hamlet's local museum, and there the "a variety of instruments and tools used in various rituals" would be interpreted quite differently. I think something about the long history and importance of the city being reflected in the museums and in the cityscape (or the like) should be added to the Understand – if it is true. --LPfi (talk) 10:53, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
[edit]The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 07:47, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Do we really need this photo here? It's in the Tsitsikamma article. Anyway, it'll be deleted from Commons, so we'll have to make a decision about it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:14, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- The Commons page on freedom of panorama in South Africa talks only about artistic works. I am not convinced this bridge is covered by such general wording. There have not yet been any opinions from people who might understand SA copyright law. Unless the photo is deemed a speedy deletion candidate, the request will be open at least to the 27th. –LPfi (talk) 08:23, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- True, this is a work of utilitarian architecture. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Deleted without further comment ("per nomination"). I assume the admin didn't have time to check further on South-African copyright. Do we want to make a fuzz? –LPfi (talk) 18:48, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- I now asked at Commons:User talk:Missvain#South African copyright. –LPfi (talk) 09:35, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- It seems Liuxinuyu thinks that French copyright law also applies in ZA based on their comments. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:39, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hardly. I suppose they just gave France as an example of hoe copyright can work, although they worded it badly. –LPfi (talk) 12:54, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
Cape Verde has gone missing
[edit]Unless my eyesight is worse than I thought, Cape Verde is missing from the map. This oversight is unfair to the country. (For comparison, São Tomé and Príncipe, another African island nation that's smaller and less populous, is included on the map.) Nelson Ricardo (talk) 20:30, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Nelson Ricardo 2500 It also seems that the Canary Islands has also gone missing too. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 01:21, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- True, but the Canaries are part of Spain, so for travel purposes, they're in Europe. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 03:52, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- Well, I suppose so, but we could also argue with that rationale that Wallis and Futuna are a part of Europe. However, given the breadcrumb structure, I agree with you. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:06, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- True, but the Canaries are part of Spain, so for travel purposes, they're in Europe. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 03:52, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Comoros spelt wrong on static map
[edit]It says comores Tai123.123 (talk) 06:51, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- That's the French-language spelling which is official in that country. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:50, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- But this is the English Wikivoyage, so we should be using the English spelling and it should be spelled Comoros, not the French Comores. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:12, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- Right, the static map. Yes, that should be changed for en.voy. I had misread that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:41, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not an Inkscape expert, so I can't fix this but I believe SelfieCity might know how to fix that as they've made numerous maps before with Inkscape. I might try using Inkscape when my new computer arrives next week though. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:43, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, that shouldn’t be difficult to correct. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 12:12, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- I can't find an SVG version of the file including the islands. Shaundd, as the last person to edit the .png file on Commons, do you have this file? --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 12:33, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- The map is a makeshift version made as the East African Islands became a separate region. /Yvwv (talk) 13:44, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Last edit in September, hope they reply. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:54, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- I updated the PNG map at Commons, although needed to refresh my page for it to replace the old map.
- I don't think there is a SVG version. I'm not sure what happened to it but I couldn't find one. -Shaundd (talk) 19:14, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks so much Tai123.123 (talk) 19:27, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you Shaundd. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 21:09, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks so much Tai123.123 (talk) 19:27, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- I can't find an SVG version of the file including the islands. Shaundd, as the last person to edit the .png file on Commons, do you have this file? --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 12:33, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, that shouldn’t be difficult to correct. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 12:12, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not an Inkscape expert, so I can't fix this but I believe SelfieCity might know how to fix that as they've made numerous maps before with Inkscape. I might try using Inkscape when my new computer arrives next week though. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:43, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- Right, the static map. Yes, that should be changed for en.voy. I had misread that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:41, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- But this is the English Wikivoyage, so we should be using the English spelling and it should be spelled Comoros, not the French Comores. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:12, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Abuja
[edit]i suggested that Abuja supposed to be in the list of important states in Africa. Bello Na'im (talk) 17:40, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- What list? An article about a continent is not the place to mention individual states within countries. If you mean important cities, how could it possibly be one of the 9 most important cities in Africa, when Lagos is so much larger? Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:54, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Even Lagos isn't listed, and the Nigerian capital has little significance on a continental scale. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 22:09, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
user:Sbb1413 has created a new region stretching from Cape Verde to St Helena. I think we should gave a discussion about this. I don't think this is intuitive or useful for travellers. For example, is it possible to travel between the islands listed in this region without flying back to the continent (if you don't have your own boat)? Ground Zero (talk) 10:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, think Cabo Verde + STP should be breadcrumbed to where they were. What I meant in the original proposal was to categorise St Helena, etc. directly under Africa and not under a different subregion, akin to how St Pierre and Miquelon is categorised under North America. I merely added the article before because a) it was there; b) I assumed there was another proposal which I missed hence its creation. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:18, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Could you link to that discussion? I missed it Thanks. Ground Zero (talk) 10:24, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Talk:Islands of the Atlantic Ocean. I thought there was another one that led to the creation of WAI, but it seems not. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:31, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- At first glance I don't think this proposed change to the Africa regionalization makes sense, though I'm open to hearing arguments in favor of it. We shouldn't make major changes to the continent's regionalization without consensus here at the relevant talk page. —Granger (talk · contribs) 03:40, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Talk:Islands of the Atlantic Ocean. I thought there was another one that led to the creation of WAI, but it seems not. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:31, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Could you link to that discussion? I missed it Thanks. Ground Zero (talk) 10:24, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Lagos
[edit]I propose adding Lagos to the list of cities. It is the most populous city on the continent with well over 20 million residents. It is also Nigeria's economic center. Mrkstvns (talk) 16:05, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- This has come up several times before; see previous discussion of same title and others linked from that. We don't necessarily have to be bound by those earlier decisions in perpetuity, but they might inform the current proposal.
- (NB: We can't add Lagos without also selecting a city to remove, per WV:7±2).--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Lagos may be the continent's largest city and the economic centre, but it is not a very appealling destination for travellers. Ibadan or Abuja are much better Nigerian destinations than Lagos. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 21:58, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- And to clarify, I prefer all of the nine destinations listed over Lagos. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 08:38, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- I can't have an opinion on this until I know what city you intend to remove from the list in order to add Lagos. Removing Cape Town, for example, would be ridiculous given how many international visitors it attracts compared to Lagos. Ground Zero (talk) 01:14, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- The only city of the 9 now listed that seems open to debate is Luanda, but it's been debated before, so to whatever extent the points previously made may still be valid, they would be relevant: Talk:Africa/Archive 2013-2018#Lagos instead of Luanda, plus much earlier discussion in Talk:Africa/Archive 2004-2012#Cities and Other Destinations. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:56, 29 March 2024 (UTC)