Talk:Chongqing Voyage Tips and guide

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Chongqing is in a beautiful location. It is not a beautiful city then again all cities are beautiful in China according to local logic/tradition. After much construction it will be much improved.. and has great potential. The place is not very cosmopolitan and very much behind even local Chengdu. The vast majority of the pop. is very provincial and the problem of smoking is just scratching the surface. It is a nice place to visit but I would not recommend living there as a foreigner. (yet) give it at least 5 years. This is West China- the final frontier so to speak... air quality and weather are never good and people tend to be rude in public. Go to Chengdu or Xi'an!

I have been to Chongqing 9 times now over the past 2 years (starting in September of 2007) and I've eaten the fire pot, shopped in a variety of stores and even played badminton with locals.

It is a great city, but it is huge, busy, hot and humid in summer, cold and wet in winter, and almost always "overcast." As with most cities in China they rely on coal to power their industry so it is actually unusual to see blue sky. It isn't all smog as the city has long been famous for being cloudy and overcast.

Not a lot of English spoken in Chongqing and as a foreigner you will get some attention. In Beijing and Guangzhou you won't get much special attention as foreigners are far more common. Chongqing is still getting used to having tourists and foreign workers wandering around the city. In the heart of the city you won't stick out, but get out to Nanping and the locals will find you pretty interesting.

The vast majority of people in Chongqing are friendly and willing to assist you in whatever way they can. I have encountered a lot of people that want to say hello and speak a little English with me. They are also impressed if you can say anything in Chinese and if you want to impress them even more - learn to say it in the local Chongqing dialect. I'm proud to say that I've made quite a few taxi drivers smile and laugh as I direct them to my destination.

If you want to shop and eat and don't care much about saving a lot of money on it then the MetroPlaza is your best bet. It is in the heart of the cities business and shopping district (most of the upscale hotels are within walking distance). You can get some good coffee and deserts too.

Just around almost any corner is a Fire Pot restaurant. Go with a local and open yourself up to the experience. If you aren't a beer drinker then I would consider going with a less spicy version. There are a variety of styles of this popular local meal include a mushroom (vegetarian), fish, spicy (the traditional red sauce) and non-spicy (traditional without all spices). It is an adventure and if you can get over your fear of what all you are eating you can have a great time.

Smoking is done almost everywhere. Starbucks (not hard to find) is a safe haven for the non-smoker. The taxi drivers will light up and can be rude if you ask them to put it out (most just assume that you will join them). I have noticed that a lot of people are getting more and more aware that not everyone is a smoker and making an effort to stop or at least not blow smoke your way. I actually had some folks get up and move away from me when I asked them politely to not direct their smoke my way.

Chongqing is in the middle of a building boom and has been for quite a few years. As in any major industrial and urban city there is plenty of grit and grime as a result. The streets are cleaned often, but usually pretty slick when it rains and dusty when it is dry. All the construction makes for some additional traffic and noise, but also shows the amazing growth and prosperity.

There is plenty to do and worth the time and effort. Go in October or May when it is warm, but not unpleasantly hot and humid. Hougou (fire pot) is best when it is cold outside, but no matter when you are there - if you leave without eating some you have missed out on an amazing adventure. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Zakary10 (talk • contribs)

Please plunge forward and add your travel knowledge to the article itself! --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 16:04, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

I wanted to add a mid range hotel, but weren't able to save my edit, so if someone can put it in, please:

• <sleep name="Yudu Hotel" alt="" address="168 BaYi Road YuZhong District ChongQing" directions="50m. south of Jiefangbei square" phone="86-23-63828888" url="http://www.cqyuduhotel.com/" checkin="" checkout="" price="¥180+single/¥280+double" lat="" long="">has a rotating restaurant on top. </sleep>

—The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 123.145.166.134 (talk • contribs)

Your listing is there, but the cache may not have updated immediately which is probably why you weren't seeing it. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:45, 1 November 2010 (EDT)

Are there even real hot springs or they are the usual Chinese artificially heated water bath houses? I've only ever seen 1 real hot spring in China out of dozen fake ones.

Not sure who wrote the comment above, but there are indeed natural hot springs in China. Nanjing comes to mind. The quality of the experience probably won't match that in Japan however. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:50, 11 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

I created a new alternative banner for this article (I initially created it first and foremost so that it would be used at the top of the parallel article in the Hebrew edition of Wikivoyage, yet I later decided to also suggest that the English Wikivoyage community would consider using it here as well). So, which banner do you prefer having at the top of this article? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 05:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I support the change from the hazy current banner to the panorama of a dynamic metropolis with some interesting skyscrapers (and others that are less so). Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:43, 11 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

The existing banner doesn't show anything that can't be seen in pretty much every Chinese city, so yes prefer the new proposed one. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:51, 11 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

I also prefer the new banner. Danapit (talk) 17:48, 11 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

New banner gives a sense of a bustling metropolis, old one gives just a vaguely asian impression. Hence mark me down as supporting the new banner. Hobbitschuster (talk) 17:55, 11 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Prefer the second, despite being a city skyline. The original could be anywhere; even looks like Melbourne's Chinatown to some extent. James A ▪ talk 09:53, 12 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Proposed, nice river shape Syced (talk) 08:14, 13 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Am I correct to understand that this article is mainly intended to cover central Chongqing and that any listings outside of the nine core districts should be placed either in the Go Next section or in a separate district article? STW932 (talk) 04:54, 18 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

What kinds of listings are you talking about (e.g., "See", "Do", "Buy", "Eat", etc.)? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:07, 18 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

I am mainly talking about "See" listings. All of the places in the "Go next" section are located in Chongqing Municipality. I am wondering whether most of them should be moved to the "See" section". STW932 (talk) 08:14, 18 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

I would say those should be in "See". "Go next" is usually for destinations, and much less commonly for attractions. You can put those listings in a separate subsection with a title such as "Outlying areas", "Outside of central Chonqing" or something else that's clear. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:15, 18 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

If I'm not mistaken, this article is only supposed to cover central Chongqing (the nine core districts forming the urban area, as User:STW932 said). I think other parts of the municipality are supposed to be covered in separate city articles such as Qijiang and Dazu and linked from Chongqing (municipality)#Cities. —Granger (talk · contribs) 21:40, 18 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Although this edit has added useful information, it has also removed a number of hotels from the page (although admittedly) mainly one-liners with no detail. Assume we let it stand? --Traveler100 (talk) 21:56, 4 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

This article is rather long, with quite a few listings. An article for Yuzhong was unilaterally created on Sept. 23. Your thoughts are solicited. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:57, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

We're also going to need a decent map of the city, showing the districts and their boundaries clearly. Right now, we don't have one. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:02, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

If districtified, the article(s) need quite a few more listings in the other sections than See - most obviously there is just one single Eat listing.

Also, if nobody here knows the city well, but we still want to divide the city into districts, then things that are visible to the visitor on the ground can serve as district borders. For example, in the map the rivers divide the city in three parts. Also, the "peninsula" at the confluence has a high density of POIs so it is presumably some kind of downtown... --Ypsilon (talk) 18:47, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yes, the Yuzhong Peninsula is Chongqing's downtown area. STW932 (talk) 00:30, 10 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I wrote in the pub

I'd say places in the municipality but outside the central urban area -- Qijiang, Qianjiang, Dazu & maybe others later -- are fine as separate articles. We should keep Chongqing (municipality) or (I think better) move it to Chongqing Municipality.

The Chongqing article is a good candidate for districting & Yuzhong looks to me like a good candidate for one of the districts.

For the rest of the discussion there see Wikivoyage:Travellers'_pub#Chongqing_districting. Pashley (talk) 21:49, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

User:Wuwenhao19960507, we need your input. What districts should we have for this city on Wikivoyage? We need names, boundaries and an estimated total of listings per district. Also pinging User:Peter011008, User:Laoxinyi, User:Leeinm, User:STW932, User:The dog2 and User:Air fans. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:05, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I certainly have something to say about that but I'm a little busy now. I'll get back to you later. STW932 (talk) 00:49, 10 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Great! These kinds of discussions usually take a while, anyway. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Dear reviewer, I am very sorry. This is my first time editing on Wikivoyage and I thought it was my own sandbox. I will not continue to update the content and hope to delete the content about Yuzhong. I apologize for the misunderstanding. Wuwenhao19960507 (talk) 05:41, 14 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

No-one wants to delete any content! The only question is where to put it. But why don't you suggest a good districting scheme for Chongqing? Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:57, 14 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I support this decision, Yuzhong district can be divided as a separate division. Because first of all the most famous cbd landscape of Chongqing is there, and there are a lot of tourist attractions as well. If Yuzhong District is given a separate division, I think it can be convenient for travelers. Secondly after checking the internet in China, Yuzhong District has won many awards. Peter011008 (talk) 05:44, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I would suggest dividing Chongqing into the main urban area and the eastern, western and southern areas. Just like I divided Chengdu.

Main urban areas: The Chongqing municipal government itself has divided 9 main urban areas. It includes Yuzhong District, Jiangbei District, Nanan District, Jiulongpo District, Dadukou District, Shapingba District, Banan District, Beibei District and Yubei District. This is the core area of Chongqing, with convenient transportation, perfect city functions, and important attractions are mostly concentrated here.

Western area: Yongchuan District, Hechuan District, Dazu District, etc. There are both vast rural landscapes and historical and cultural heritages such as the Dazu stone carvings.

Eastern region: Fuling District, Fengdu County, Zhong County, Wanzhou District, Yunyang County and so on. This region is close to the Three Gorges of the Yangtze River, with beautiful scenery and abundant tourism resources along the Yangtze River.

Southern region: Qianjiang District, Wulong District, Pengshui County and so on. These areas are dominated by mountain scenery and natural landscapes, and Wulong is very famous for its karst landscapes and Tiansheng Three Bridges. Peter011008 (talk) 05:49, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I completely agree with the idea of ​​dividing Chongqing into major urban areas and eastern, western, and southern regions. This will not only make it easier for travelers to find important attractions, but also help better showcase the different regional characteristics of Chongqing.

I have two small suggestions for further discussion:

Specific subdivision of major urban areas: You mentioned that the Chongqing government has divided it into 9 major urban areas, which is indeed helpful. However, perhaps consider further subdividing these areas, especially for areas like Jiangbei District and Nan'an District, which also have many tourist resources and landmarks. This may allow travelers to find relevant information more accurately.

Regional boundaries: While discussing these areas, are there some natural or man-made landmarks that can more clearly demarcate the boundaries? For example, rivers, mountains, or important roads, so that the boundaries of each district can be more intuitively displayed on the map. Mcx8202229 (talk) 06:09, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

User:Peter011008, if I understand your proposal correctly, it's a bit comparable to the 2-step districting of New York City, though maybe in some ways more like Los Angeles. Am I right that the idea is to maintain an overall Chongqing article and then have primary regions within the city of Chongqing/Main urban areas, Chongqing/Western, Chongqing/Eastern and Chongqing/Southern, which would then be further subdivided into, for example, Chongqing/Main urban areas/Yuzhong, Chongqing/Main urban areas/Jiangbei and so on? That could work. Very roughly, about how many total listings would there be in each of the bottom-level district articles? Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

You're right, that's what I meant.

As for entry predictions, I'm not local enough to provide very accurate information. Still, I've made regional general predictions like I did for Chengdu.

Chongqing Main District: Since there are so many attractions and I've been there myself, I can guarantee that each administrative district can basically have more than 3 attractions, as well as 3 things to eat, 3 things to drink, and 3 things to stay. (That's the basics.) If a local was there, he would say more than that.

As far as the eastern region, western region and those places. I've never been there, but predict that the boroughs within each region could have 1-2 attractions, 2 things to eat, 2 things to drink, and 2 things to sleep. Peter011008 (talk) 07:25, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for confusing Chengdu and Chongqing; I had 2 tabs open. I would say that 8-12 listings is not a lot for an article. Maybe we should really start with just the 4 big districts, with each listing specifying which smaller district it's in, and then make further divisions when necessary. If we did that, about how many total listings would there be in Main urban areas, Western, Eastern and Southern? Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

If go by what you're saying, I predict that Chongqing's main urban area section could have more than 8 attractions, 8 things to eat, 8 things to drink, and 5 things to sleep. The list could be more than 30 items in total. Peter011008 (talk) 07:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

That would be good. I propose that we do that, and then revisit the question of whether to subdivide further if the district articles start to get overwhelmingly long. However, I'd like to hear from other people, who might feel that 30+ listings would be overwhelming. I don't think so, because they'd be divided between different sections (See, Do, Eat, Drink, Buy, Sleep). Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

30+ listings sounds okay to me too. STW932 (talk) 13:17, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I don't know Chongqing as well as those who have lived there, but I've at least been there a couple of times for tourism purposes and I've had the opportunity to visit multiple areas of the city.

The distinction between the main urban area and the outer districts is quite clear from a traveller's perspective. As a general rule, if you want to visit a place within the main urban area, you can get there by taking a metro train or a local public bus, but if you want to visit one of the outer districts, you have to catch a long-distance bus or train. STW932 (talk) 13:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Can we get agreement to start with these 4 proposed districts? Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:51, 19 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I would like to see a full list of administrative districts that are included in the proposed four districts. For example, where is Nanchuan District? What about Qijiang District? It would also be helpful if someone were to create a map showing the boundaries of the proposed districts. STW932 (talk) 12:49, 19 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Agreed, we do need a map. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I do not agree with this:

the idea is to maintain an overall Chongqing article and then have primary regions within the city of Chongqing/Main urban areas, Chongqing/Western, Chongqing/Eastern and Chongqing/Southern, which would then be further subdivided into, for example, Chongqing/Main urban areas/Yuzhong, Chongqing/Main urban areas/Jiangbei and so on?

As I see it, there is no need for some of these:

"an overall Chongqing article" is just Chongqing (municipality)

"Chongqing/Main urban areas" is just Chongqing

In both cases, it would be simpler & better to keep the existing titles. Pashley (talk) 01:24, 30 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Swept in from the pub

Hi, everyone! I'm not up to pinging a bunch of people right now, so I'm just posting here: we need to discuss districting for that city, and we will need a map that shows the agreed-upon districts. So far, a new user has unilaterally created two more district articles for the city, and that kind of piecemeal districting is not the way this site is supposed to work. There is also ongoing discussion about the best way to district Chengdu. I think it's reasonable to have discussions about any very big Chinese city with lots of things to list and coherent sections, as long as there are knowledgeable people and volunteers who are happy to add useful content. I've been to China twice but not too recently and only to several cities. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:07, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I haven't been to China to know how Chongqing should be districted, but if these were unilaterally created, shouldn't we speedy merge them for the time being? --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 06:42, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Go ahead, if you like. Dazu and Yuzhong, both started by new user User:Wuwenhao19960507. But I would suggest only hiding and not overwriting (=deleting) the content if you do redirects. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:47, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

If you really want to take this policy to its logical end, though, unilaterally created district articles for Chengdu will also have to be redirected. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:48, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Dazu is not a new article. It has existed on this site for almost two decades. Wuwenhao19960507 did not create it. Moreover, it's outside the main urban. area, which is why it is listed on the Chongqing (municipality) page. I oppose merging Dazu but support merging Yuzhong (though I believe central Chongqing should be districtified eventually). STW932 (talk) 07:38, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

You're right. Sorry, I didn't realize I was looking at only the latest page of the history. Dazu shouldn't be merged. Only Yuzhong is new. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:46, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I don't know enough about Chongqing to do any of the merges, to be fair. I'd rather abstain. SHB2000 (t | c | m) 09:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Me, too. Besides, this isn't an emergency. If it takes a day (or a week) to figure it out, then that's okay. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:41, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

It's not an emergency; it just needs discussion and agreement. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:16, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'd say places in the municipality but outside the central urban area -- Qijiang, Qianjiang, Dazu & maybe others later -- are fine as separate articles. We should keep Chongqing (municipality) or (I think better) move it to Chongqing Municipality.

The Chongqing article is a good candidate for districting & Yuzhong looks to me like a good candidate for one of the districts. Pashley (talk) 17:59, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Please share your thoughts on Talk:Chongqing. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:35, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello everyone, I was born in Yuzhong District, Chongqing. Initially, I wanted to edit the page about my hometown, Yuzhong District, but I couldn't find it in the administrative divisions. As this is my first time editing on Wikipedia, I thought creating a new page for an area would be simple. However, I quickly realized it was more complex than I expected. So, instead, I decided to edit the existing travel guide for Dazu District.

I would like to share that Chongqing currently has 26 districts, 8 counties, and 4 autonomous counties. Editing every administrative region would involve handling a massive amount of data. While I would love to do that, time and personal capacity limit me. Therefore, I've chosen to focus on Dazu District, particularly highlighting it as a World Heritage site and offering detailed information for visitors from all over the world.

I removed some outdated information about Dazu because it has been six years since the last update, and much of the content was no longer accurate. For example, ticket prices have changed, and transportation methods have evolved with the addition of new stations. Over the next two months, I will devote my efforts to thoroughly editing the page on Dazu. First, I’ve visited this place many times, and second, it truly deserves to be explored by people from every country. Wuwenhao19960507 (talk) 00:37, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for work on Dazu. I visited Dazu in October last year and I hope to do some editing on that page myself when I have time. STW932 (talk) 05:44, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, Wuwenhao19960507, for your work to update that page. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:34, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Reply