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Communication with auto drivers
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- Off-topic, but the promotion (and possible imposition) of Kannada in Karnataka has probably led to Bangalore being officially renamed to "Bengaluru", Mysore to "Mysuru", Shimoga to "Shivamogga", Belgaum to "Belagavi", Gulbarga to "Kalaburagi", Chikmagalur to "Chikkamagaluru", Hubli to "Hubballi", and so on, back in 2007. However, most English outlets continue using old names for 17 years and counting (except "Gulbarga", which is found mostly in historical discourse). Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 03:44, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, absolutely mention the language issue in the "Talk" section. In terms of names, we go by the name that's most used in English, but if this might cause issues for travelers, it should be mentioned somewhere, probably "Understand" but maybe "Respect." Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- The local name is mentioned in parenthesis on the first line of the article leads (I changed to that format in this article) and as the alt parameter in listings. The discussion can be in one of those other sections, but isn't needed for every city article, having it here probably suffices. –LPfi (talk) 07:21, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, absolutely mention the language issue in the "Talk" section. In terms of names, we go by the name that's most used in English, but if this might cause issues for travelers, it should be mentioned somewhere, probably "Understand" but maybe "Respect." Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Bangalore to Bengaluru
[edit]The English Wikipedia article Bangalore was recently renamed to Bengaluru as per Talk:Bengaluru#Requesting move from Bangalore to Bengaluru. Most recent media outlets are using the name "Bengaluru", especially in India. So, I propose to rename this article to Bengaluru as well. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 11:06, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Any objections regarding changing the article name to Bengaluru as per the arguments at Talk:Bengaluru#Requesting move from Bangalore to Bengaluru? Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 17:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Support This was argued 15 times at Wikipedia. I don't think we will come up with better arguments than they did. A traveller visiting India will have to get comfortable with Bengaluru, and that is clearly where the English language is headed. There is no value in dragging our heels here. Ground Zero (talk) 18:22, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Policy is to use the commonest English name. My guess would be that that is still Bangalore. Pashley (talk) 18:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- I agree. But considering the usage of the terms in reliable media over the past 10 years, I think "Bengaluru" trumps over "Bangalore". And by reliable media, I don't mean the men in the street calling the city "Bangalore" in random talks or texts. I mean the websites travellers may encounter while searching their destinations. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 18:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia policy is also to use the commenest English name, and the Wikipedia community has concluded after lengthy debate that it is Bengaluru. Ground Zero (talk) 20:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- I agree. But considering the usage of the terms in reliable media over the past 10 years, I think "Bengaluru" trumps over "Bangalore". And by reliable media, I don't mean the men in the street calling the city "Bangalore" in random talks or texts. I mean the websites travellers may encounter while searching their destinations. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 18:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ten days are elapsed, and I think we should close this discussion to rename to "Bengaluru" as it satisfies either of the two policies listed at Anc:
- "articles should use the city, region or country name most commonly used in English-speaking countries" – "Bengaluru" is one of the the most commonly used English names for the destination, as determined by Wikipedians at Talk:Bengaluru#Requesting move from Bangalore to Bengaluru.
- "[a]n alternative policy for article naming is to use the destination's official name. Often, the official name is also the most common English name, so there's no problem." – "Bengaluru" (yes, just "Bengaluru") is the official name of the destination, as well as one of the most commonly used English names.
- Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 12:33, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- Just a small detail: Unlike Wikipedia, we never close discussions on Wikivoyage, with the exception of time-bound ones like deletion request threads; we just make decisions, and if a discussion is inactive for a long period, we may archive it to decrease clutter on a talk page. For my part, I don't know whether Wikipedians made the right decision, but I keep in mind that India is the most populous English-speaking country in the world, and of course the precedents with Kolkata and Mumbai are obvious. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:48, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
New banner
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The current banner of Bengaluru does not reflect the city, which is associated with modernity rather than religion. The temple depicted is not well-known to outsiders. To better represent the city, I suggest the skyline of the city centre as the banner. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 11:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Support the proposed banner once it's cropped to 7:1 dimensions. //shb (t | c | m) 12:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Support the proposed banner, when cropped. Ground Zero (talk) 12:05, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Support, reluctantly. I do not much like the proposed banner, though it is an improvement. I find most skyline photos profoundly boring & rather generic, with nothing specific to the city in question. Can anyone do better? Pashley (talk) 00:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Pashley, SHB2000, Ground Zero: I think the skyline can be cropped to focus on UB City. In the proposed banner, UB City is at the left.
I have added other proposals that focus more on some of Bengaluru's famous attractions.Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 09:11, 27 May 2025 (UTC)- I think I now favour the original proposal (UB City), the second proposal and then the current banner – mainly because the 2nd doesn't highlight Bangalore's modernity. //shb (t | c | m) 09:58, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, but Vidhana Soudha is sometimes used as a symbol for the whole city, and that's why it is my another proposed banner. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 08:13, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- I think I now favour the original proposal (UB City), the second proposal and then the current banner – mainly because the 2nd doesn't highlight Bangalore's modernity. //shb (t | c | m) 09:58, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Pashley, SHB2000, Ground Zero: I think the skyline can be cropped to focus on UB City. In the proposed banner, UB City is at the left.
- Comment – The skyline photo with Kingfisher Tower was a good candidate, but as it comes from a problematic source, I have removed it from my list of proposals.. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 09:40, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
