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Formatting and language conventions
For articles about Turkey, please use the 24-hour clock to show times, e.g. 09:00-12:00 and 18:00-00:00. Please show prices in this format: 100 TL and not TRY 100, ₺100, 100 YTL, or 100 lira (although "₺" is commonly used to denote lira, it is not properly displayed by many browsers). Please use American spelling (color, labor, traveled, realize, center, analog, program).
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regional misplacement
[edit]hello, i see that turkey is placed under 'middle east' while the united nations tourism organization and european tourism comission is placing turkey under europe. since this site is 'wikivoyage' and not 'wikipedia', the deciding factor should be the international organizations, not our perceptions. 83.9.121.225 13:38, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- That's not a misplacement, but a choice. The tourism organisations' classifications don't have much weight here. What other merit is there in changing our classification? Some arguments for not including Turkey in Europe are discussed above in #Asia or Europe. –LPfi (talk) 14:05, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
those 'tourism organizations' are 'united nations' and the 'european union'. namely the most prominent organizations around the world. also, i would say that the discussion above is not decisively consensus-ed. i would really like to have a fruitful discussion with the culture being the main topic.
i would like to start it by arguing that the modern turkish culture (late-ottoman and turkey) and history is actually much more aligned with balkans rather than middle east. especially with the majority of the population. if you and more people would like to join, i'll provide further points regarding my argument :) 83.9.121.225 20:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- Feel free, but I really don't think you are going to convince people to change this. And what international organizations think is not a relevant consideration for a travel guide. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:47, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
i am taking this issue to Talk:Middle East for a broader conversation. please feel free to join. 83.9.121.225 20:50, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Banner Replacement
[edit]Hi there. The current banner is just awfully oriental-centric, small spectrum representation for a country which encompasses many many cultures within. I suggest its replacement. 83.9.116.119 01:00, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have any proposed suggestions? Files have to be on Wikimedia Commons. --SHB (t | c | m) 01:05, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
It's not as focused as the current banner, but it's a nice panorama, and if you feel like it represents the entire country better than the current banner, I'd be fine with it. Let's see what other people think, though, and what about the idea of something else possibly representing the entire country better? Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:42, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
I've accumulated enough candidates I assume. Guess we can proceed with selection. Dudewithafez (talk) 19:53, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- Excellent choices. My favorites are Options B and C. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 21:00, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
I weigh on either C or E. Dudewithafez (talk) 00:23, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- OK, in terms of pure interest, E wins out, but several other banners have better focus. Of those, my preferences are B by a considerable margin, then C and then the current banner, which is a really great one and should be used somewhere (maybe an Istanbul district article). A is a bit fuzzy and D may be too unfocused. Now, if you all prefer not to have an Istanbul banner representing Turkey, I think E might be best. C would be my second choice of a non-Istanbul banner. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:30, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- My preferences in order are C, B, current banner, E then distantly D. A isn't even on the cards. --SHB (t | c | m) 01:34, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Candidates
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Türkiye
[edit]Its official name is Türkiye. the ethnic name. We shouldnt name it Turkey just because most people call it that. Its real name is Türkiye not TURKEY! Maroontruths (talk) 19:04, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- Read Wikivoyage:Naming conventions. We call it by the name most used in English, and you just gave a powerful argument that that name is still Turkey. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:14, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- I do think we should make the change at this stage. Wikipedia has been a holdout on the issue, but most of the internet is moving to the new name, including Google Maps, the country's own travel website aimed at tourists, the UN, Lonely Planet, and even a certain other travel site. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 19:25, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- Come on, you think the name with the umlaut is the name most used in English? Please. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:30, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- Its used by The UN, Google, The own country and majority of the internet. Maroontruths (talk) 20:22, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- And? That's not our basis for determining which name to use. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:51, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Its used by The UN, Google, The own country and majority of the internet. Maroontruths (talk) 20:22, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think it's probs worth revisiting in another few years but I think atp Turkey is still the more used name – I'm not sure how long this will last, though, or if Türkiye ever takes on because of the umlaut. //shb (t | c | m) 22:36, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- It's possible, but just like Myanmar, English-speakers would continue to absolutely butcher the pronunciation. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:14, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Come on, you think the name with the umlaut is the name most used in English? Please. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:30, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
Updating.
[edit]Current list of the cities and locations are a bit off in terms of notability and regional diversity. I am updating some of them along with descriptions. I noticed that other pages having an interactive map so adding that one too. ~2025-27966-92 (talk) 18:35, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- No. You can't do these things without consensus. Propose a new lineup of cities, explain why, and try to get a consensus behind you. And nix on dynamic maps for countries. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:58, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
Ok then I am suggesting a consensus on my list. For example, Sümela leads to Trabzon with rediection so effectively Trabzon is mentioned twice! Or, Bodrum and Ölüdeniz are side-by-side. Or, Antep is a much bigger cultural hub than nearby Urfa in terms of basically everything. The current list is not well curated in terms of notability and diversity... Dynamic maps are present in examples like: Greece and Germany. Is there a ban on them? I didin't know... {{subst:~2025-27966-92}}
- Please sign your posts on talk pages by adding 4 tildes (~) in a row at the end. Wait for others to comment on your proposed substitutions. Discussion may last a week or longer. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:48, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- and, please, read policy: WV:Map and WV:Consensus. Consensus means, you propose a change, you convince your fellow editors the change is a good one, they vote for it, and implement it or not. This is how you "propose a consensus". Ibaman (talk) 12:23, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
Ok then let's vote on it! As explained, the current list is just too bland and clustered within. I suggest a wider and proper representation. One 'Aye' from me!~2025-27966-92 (talk) 16:23, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest that you post a summary and link to this thread on the Requests for comment page. Also, note that a 1-0 vote is not a consensus. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:17, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Why don't you guys hop on in then? ~2025-30107-77 (talk) 22:15, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- kindly explain precisely what kind of changes you mean, such as "I don't like Trabzon on the list, Samsun would be better, because of this and that". Then we'll have something to debate and vote on. Ibaman (talk) 23:57, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Why don't you guys hop on in then? ~2025-30107-77 (talk) 22:15, 28 October 2025 (UTC)