Hello Zcarstvnz! Welcome to Wikivoyage.
To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page.
If you are a Wikipedian then you may notice some differences in policies and the style of our articles. These include:
- NPOV → be fair (not quite the same thing!)
- be bold → plunge forward
- Village pump → travellers' pub
- External links → We do not use a separate external links section, but incorporate primary links only into the text itself.
- sandbox → graffiti wall
- stub tagging → Article status
It may also be very useful for you to check out Wikivoyage:Welcome, Wikipedians. If you need help, take a look at Wikivoyage:Help, or else post a message in the travellers' pub or on my talk page. Thanks for contributing!
Thanks a lot for adding content and improving the site!
I'm sorry we've had some disagreements already. On "Learn", thanks for pointing out that Wikivoyage:Where you can stick it contradicts with an insufficiently documented consensus on what to list and where. You are acting in completely good faith. I've started a thread, Wikivoyage talk:Listings#"Learn" listings, so that this can be clarified. I should add that I'm not personally wedded to the current consensus and wouldn't mind if we listed all colleges, but that's only a personal opinion.
One other thing is that while there is indeed a way to include Wikipedia links in listings, the standard format uses Wikivoyage listing templates, not inline links; Wikivoyage:Links to Wikipedia covers this, but it's possible that it's not clear enough.
Content is the most important thing, though, and I'll try to keep out of your way a little more.
All the best,
Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:29, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
- I'd like to add my welcome, and thanks for your contributions. But I think we should remember that Wikivoyage is a guide for visitors to a place, not for its residents. Information like access to public library services for residents, and colleges in nearby towns doesn't belong here. The info on a college should be listed in the article for the town or city in which it is located. Best regards, Ground Zero (talk) 12:22, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
- Zcarstvnz, I am sorry that you feel that you have had a rough start in Wikivoyage. I hope that you will remember that Wikivoyage calls itself "the free travel guide that anyone can edit". Your contributions (and mine and Ikan's) can and will be changed by other editors. That's how a collaborative project works. Ikan and I have certainly had a lot of disagreements about edits, but we've also worked together on more occasions to improve Wikivoyage. I don't agree with all of Wikivoyage's policies, but I do accept them because they help prevent edit disputes and help make Wikivoyage easier for readers to find their way around. And when I've disagreed with policies, I've proposed changes. Some of them have been accepted, and others haven't been. This too is how collaborative projects work, for better or for worse. I took a look at the Schaumburg article edit history, and see that most of your contributions remain in the article. Thank you again for these edits. I hope that you will stay with Wikivoyage, and learn more about how to build this great project. Ground Zero (talk) 01:37, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for all the banners
[edit]Thank you! The one in the Barrington (Illinois) article is particularly nice. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:35, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the banners as well, but please note that banners on the top of articles should be cropped to a ratio of 7:1. --ϒpsilon (talk) 11:27, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Peoria
[edit]Hey Z, looking at the edit history, I see that my edit came just minutes after your last edit, so I guess we were both in the article at the same time. It's looking much better now. Thanks again for your contributions. Ground Zero (talk) 14:54, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Time and date formatting
[edit]Some quick tips to help you with time and date formatting (see WV:tdf for more details):
- For days of the week, we use the shortest forms we can: M Tu W Th F Sa Su.
- To show two days of the week, we use a space: "F Sa" or "Tu Th".
- To show a range of days, we use a hyphen or dash: M-Sa.
- In countries that use a 12-hour clock (like the U.S.), we use this format: 9AM-5:30PM, and we use "noon" and "midnight" instead of 12PM and 12AM, which can confuse people.
Using the same formatting throughout an article makes it easier to read. I hope that helps. Thanks, Ground Zero (talk) 15:21, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
@Ground Zero: Thanks for the help and suggestions. They are very appreciated. I will go back and fix my changes in the Peoria article to match. Zcarstvnz (talk) 15:37, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
A Barncompass for you
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The Wikivoyage Barncompass |
| Thanks for your great contribution in Wikivoyage edit-a-thon 2018! |
User:ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 18:37, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- @ויקיג'אנקי, ויקיג'אנקי: Thanks for the Barncompass. I made a small version that I thought you might like to see and share. The colors are probably slightly off of what is in the original you posted, but it looks pretty close.
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The WikiVoyage Barncompass Thanks for your great contribution in Wikivoyage edit-a-thon 2018! |
On my Wikipedia page User:Zcarstvnz there is a second version with only the coding being different (in the standard userbox code that won't work here).
Thank you
[edit]You've been extremely helpful. Thanks, among other things, for updating all those event dates!
All the best,
Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:21, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
- I second that motion. Good work! --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 00:07, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
- Me too. I think that out-of-date event listings are a big turn-off for readers. Great work! Ground Zero (talk) 12:08, 20 March 2018 (UTC
- Thank you for adding the geo zoom level to hundreds of articles so far. It has been a monumental effort. Please keep up the good work! Gizza (roam) 23:52, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
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| This Barncompass is for adding the geo zoom attribute to over 1500 articles on Wikivoyage. Great work! Gizza (roam) 04:07, 12 August 2018 (UTC) |
Sønderby Sheep pic moved
[edit]Thank you Elgaard (talk) 14:23, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for creating the new banner! I like it. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:58, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
An award for you!
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The Wikivoyage Barncompass |
| Thank you for moving hundreds of banners to Wikidata! Not a small task by any means, especially when you had to create dozens of missing Wikidata items. Your work is noticed and appreciated. ARR8 (talk | contribs) 03:24, 20 January 2019 (UTC) |
Did not intend to overwrite your banner, looks like we came to the same conclusion at the same time. --Traveler100 (talk) 08:18, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Traveler100: No problem. I was wondering what was going on. Zcarstvnz (talk) 08:25, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Wikidata banners
[edit]Thanks for adding the pagebanners to Wikidata. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:20, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, though, I'm still having an issue. When I insert "p4656" into Wikidata, it doesn't work: it says "No match was found." --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 22:21, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
@SelfieCity: Does this help explain where to put the p4656? Remember you have to "add" the second line to the reference. See the updated instructions at Category:Banner missing from Wikidata
Zcarstvnz (talk) 22:40, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- I think I've got it now. I'll tell you if otherwise. When you say add, you mean, "Press the add button". I see. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:16, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
How am I doing?
[edit]Hello!
I saw your message on my talk page and wanted to begin fixing the wikidata for the articles I added banners to. Before I went all in, I wanted to make sure I was doing it right. I updated the wikidata for Atwater as a test, following https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Category:Banner_missing_from_Wikidata. Did I do it correctly?
Thank you for your time, and sorry for any hassle! Mbrickn (talk) 18:42, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Mbrickn: Hi! Everything in the Wikidata Atwater additions you made looks correct. I apologize for the slow reply, but on weekdays I can only get on Wikivoyage early in the morning. Thanks for taking the time to add the entries and for all you do on Wikivoyage! Zcarstvnz (talk) 09:14, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Azerbaijani phone numbers
[edit]I see you added the country prefix to some numbers, where I left the (025) as on the source page. Are you sure the (025) xxx should be +994 025 xxx? I suspect the zero should be left out, but as I do not know I left it as is – those travelling to Azerbaijan will need to figure that out anyway, so better give a local number than a possibly wrong international one. Wikivoyage:Phone numbers gives no guidance and Azerbaijan only hints. --LPfi (talk) 08:46, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Wikipedia's article on telephone numbers in Azerbaijan and the How to Call Abroad website say that for Lankaran, phone numbers should start with +994 25. The only countries where the zero is not taken off are Italy, San Marino and the Vatican. But there are countries where the country code is +20 (Egypt) or +30 {Greece) where in a practical sense, it is like adding +2 or +3 and keeping the zero. Gizza (roam) 08:54, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- OK. I removed the zeroes. --LPfi (talk) 09:06, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
A cup of coffee
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You already have a bunch of barn compasses, so here is cup of coffee for you, to thank you for your work on banners. Ground Zero (talk) 17:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC)