Talk:Amusement parks Voyage Tips and guide

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I have some questions, namely when did Coney Island and others actually start?

The early ones I can recall from memory are Coney Island, Blackpool, and Luna Park (which is either Sydney or Melbourne not sure which).

I'm also not sure where to draw the line between formal park gardens ( probably more suited to Botanical Tourism), Pleasure Gardens ( which are not necessarily floral), and what would be considered the modern amusement park. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 23:06, 8 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

According to the English Wikipedia article on w:en:Amusement parks, w:en:Dyrehavsbakken, open since 1583, claims to be the world's oldest; Blackpool and Coney Island date to the mid-19th century.

It looks like the oldest "modern" type (fully enclosed) was Sea Lion Park at Coney Island in 1895. WhatamIdoing (talk) 14:51, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

This seems to be another page of attracting "oh oh, I know a thing!" edits which is not consistent with our Wikivoyage:Avoid_long_lists policy.

Should we ask what this page is for? A full list of every global amusement park would be a few thousand items at the very least. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:24, 31 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

I think your question is well taken. My feeling is that this article could give the basics about amusement parks for people who have never been to one, but that its main use would be in offering some outstanding examples of amusement parks and explain what's unusually special about them. So basically, a general overview of amusement parks in general and then a "highlights of amusement parks". Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:29, 31 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Yes, it would be great to use some outstanding examples. Coney Island would be a good example of a living yet somewhat historic amusement park. Sentosa in Singapore an example of a modern 'mega-park', and Disneyland in its own obvious category. Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:43, 31 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

We're on the same wavelength. Yes, I think that's the kind of thing to put in this article: The old, the unique, the outstanding, and also the weirdest and such. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:05, 31 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

• "No one's quite sure exactly when the 18th-century concept of a 'pleasure garden' fully evolved into the late 19th- and early 20th-century amusement park." What does "exactly" do in this sentence? Is it just unneeded emphasis?
• "The modern attraction, besides having a number of rides presents a live Circus Revue during the summer season." This sentence is incorrect. The parenthetical comma is not closed. The subject of "presents" isn't "rides", its "attraction". Hobbitschuster, did you not notice this grammatical error when you reverted my edits? (I did not notice that I had typed "snd" instead d "and", but that's easily fixed without reverting.) "The modern attraction has rides, and presents a live Circus Revue during the summer season." is a simpler, cleaner formulation of this sentence.
• "Universal and Disney theme parks both originated in the Los Angeles area in California, though both of them now have a second, bigger location near Orlando in Florida those being Universal Orlando and Walt Disney World respectively."

Using "both" twice in the same sentence is clumsy and unnecessary. The first "both" serves the same purpose as "and". "Originated" can only refer to Universal and Disney. Punctuation is needed between "Florida" and "those being". Its absence is another grammatical error that your reversion restored.

"Respectively"? What does that do? It tells us that Universal Orlando belongs to Universal, Walt Disney World belongs to Disney. Thanks, Captain Obvious. That's helpful only to readers who are idiots.

Ground Zero (talk) 21:43, 15 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

This looks like you're trying really hard to fix something that isn't broken. K7L (talk) 17:47, 16 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

These seem like good changes to me. ARR8 (talk) 17:50, 16 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Grammatical errors mean that it is broken. Writer's pride isn't a reason to leave grammatical errors in our writing. (Or typos, for that matter. I'm always happy when someone corrects a mistake I've made.) Ground Zero (talk) 18:00, 16 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Ground Zero: I reworded part of the lede ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:43, 28 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

I have previously created an alternative banner for this article (which was initially created for the parallel article at the Hebrew Wikivoyage, but I decided to suggest we'll use it here at the English Wikivoyage article as well). Which banner do you prefer that we'll use on the top of this article? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 13:31, 13 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

• The new banner shows the diversity of these parks better, and has pretty colours. Ground Zero (talk) 18:29, 13 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
• New banner. I agree with Ground Zero. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 02:15, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
• New banner per above. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:37, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
• What exactly does the new banner depict? The source image isn't totally clear; its filename indicates it was taken in Munich in 2012, and the categories indicate it was an Oktoberfest event. To me, it looks more like a temporary fair midway than a permanent amusement park, but I'm not sure how Oktoberfest works in Germany. Powers ^(talk) 15:15, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Looks like you have a good point. On the other hand, most amusement parks not in tropical areas are seasonal. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:45, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Seasonal, sure, but not transient. And that's the main thing I'm wondering about the Oktoberfest. Powers ^(talk) 13:36, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Understood. I went past the main Oktoberfest area in January, 2014, when the festival was not happening. Unfortunately, I'm not completely sure whether a ferris wheel and such were still there; I thought a few things were that made me wonder what the place was, but I can't swear to it. (My girlfriend and I may have been driven there when we were very jetlagged.) Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:48, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

• New banner, but mirrored so the least interesting part of the image (currently right of the ferris wheel) is covered by the article name and the carousel isn't.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:20, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

  That would also reverse the words on the street signs and banners. Powers ^(talk) 13:36, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

• The new banner is preferrable. While we don't have an explicit policy against mirroring banners, I have feeling that we should not. /Yvwv (talk) 17:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

We seem to be struggling with this, so here are a couple of other ideas from South Korea (3) and Malaysia (4): Ground Zero (talk) 17:45, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

• The 3rd banner is a little unsharp but intriguing, so I would tend to favor it now. Kudos to ויקיג'אנקי and Ground Zero for making so many banners! Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

• I like the third banner, but the second one is fine too. The dog2 (talk) 21:02, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
• Banner 3 Oktoberfest is a month long beer festival, so it isn't covered by the article. I think that the rides will pack up and move to another location after the festival. The Oktoberfest new banner could be considered for Munich/Ludwigsvorstadt-Isarvorstadt. AlasdairW (talk) 22:25, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

What do you guys think about water parks (like Hurricane Harbor or Schlitterbahn)? Would these be considered a type of amusement park, or are they something else, possibly with a separate article. Thoughts? Mrkstvns (talk) 20:17, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I think they're a type of amusement park. I'd say create a section for them, start filling it in, and if it gets overwhelmingly long, split it off to its own article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:27, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

This article is already substantial in length. About how many water parks do you think should be added? Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:28, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I haven't been to a water park, but I wonder if they would fit in Water sport, which is a much shorter article? AlasdairW (talk) 21:14, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Seems like a stretch to me, but I'd like other opinions. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:02, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I also think it's a bit of a stretch to include water parks, which IMO can be listed in a separate article altogether. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 06:15, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Or in this one, but probably not in Water sports. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27pkOKYBptI

Deserves a mention i think. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:40, 22 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Then please mention it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:12, 22 December 2024 (UTC)Reply