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Hi, I noticed you were editing your user/common.css file. You probably know that it is a per user preferences file so that only you will see the effects of that. I also noticed that you were commenting? out some of your lines there with "//". I think that works in PHP but not in this CSS page. I think I have found it instead breaks your css by making it malformed. I think you will find it is the same as putting any nonsense there, such as "xx" or "--" and is interpreted as breakage, not comment. I think you want to stick to /*this*/ kind of comment marker in your css here. I'm not 100% sure about this but that is what I do just to avoid breakage. Hope this helps. I like the magazine style main page! Let's find a way to do it! :-) Rogerhc (talk) 04:32, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi! Thanks very much! It's really kind of you to take a look! I'll get rid of the slashes and have another go today. Thanks for your kind words - hopefully it'll work in the end! :-) --Nicholasjf21 (talk) 10:24, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi Nicholas, I don't know if this can be done with CSS or not but it occurred to me that if it can, then one way to get light text to stand out on light patches of photos might be to style the text's background as transparent or opacity 50% or something and set it to a dark color. http://www.w3.org/wiki/CSS3/Color/opacity seems to set the opacity of a whole element, not just its background. So maybe this would be hard to do. I don't know--I'm quite the novice with this stuff, myself. Just wanted to pass this idea to you in case there is a way to do it. I've been off line a couple days; you have made nice progress! Cheers! :-) Rogerhc (talk) 21:53, 4 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi! Thanks very much for your suggestion! That does look very interesting! I too am a complete novice with CSS, but it's useful to know that, in future, if we use a light coloured picture we can still put white text on top! Thanks! :) --Nicholasjf21 (talk) 22:03, 4 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I just upped the contrast myself on #2—let me know what you think (you might have to refresh). I looked at the Sanur Beach photo too, but I don't think it's the island's prettiest. I'd really like to have one that shows the beautiful ocean views with a bit of culture in it too, but haven't found one that's suitable. Something sort of like this would be great, but the photo has issues, and isn't suitable for our banner format. --PeterTalk22:03, 3 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I agree, I think if this new page does go ahead an Expedition to find glossy, big photos would be a good thing to have. I think the contrast with #2 looks really good now - I only changed it to let the text show up on top; I'm sorry I went a bit overboard! And that's excellent news about OtBP - thanks very much! :)
Had one final play - what do you make of this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bali_banner2.1.png I've just upped the blue and played with the levels a little bit to make the word 'Bali' stand out more clearly against the cloud. Perhaps if this does get implemented we need to write a set of guidelines on what makes a good banner? Thanks for all your help! :)
I'm still concerned that the colors look messed up, and the sky and mountains have become hard to distinguish through the blue haze. Your concern is that the text doesn't show up well enough, right? Maybe we should go with a different image, and I have a few ideas. Is white text a necessity, do you think? --PeterTalk22:36, 3 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, that's my only qualm - maybe another image would be better? If you have some ideas that would be great! I don't think white text is a necessity - grey or black could also work - I just think it would look better if it were consistent in all the images.--Nicholasjf21 (talk) 22:42, 3 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Well, this is the weird thing: if you use the original sized image, it generates co-ordinates that somehow appear to work for every size. As a result I did try consolidating them all, but it then stopped working - very odd! Basically we just need one set of co-ordinates based off the original copied into every size. I'll redo them when I get back from work. If you'd be prepared to lend a hand, I'd be very grateful! :)--Nicholasjf21 (talk) 13:36, 4 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
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I made a template that could become Template:Otbpbanner in my sandbox, and it worked fine at first, but after switching from Windows to Linux, the text no longer respects the margins followed by the images. Do you have any idea why? I pasted in code directly from Main Page New for the Staraya Russa banner at User:Peterfitzgerald/Banners, and it has the same problem. --PeterTalk05:12, 7 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I think it might be perhaps that the top banner does weird and wonderful things to the formatting of the others, but hopefully this prevent us from altering the images in future...? Sorry this isn't much help! I'll keep looking! --Nicholasjf21 (talk) 20:41, 7 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Not quite sure where this should go (perhaps my PC's Recycle Bin!), but here's a very poor pictorial representation of the Wikivoyage community pages thus far. Plainly, I'm channelling my inner 5-year-old! In future, I'll keep my attentions focussed on the new Main Page - I promise!
I would just like to take this opportunity however to say thanks to everyone on here who's made my first few weeks on here very enjoyable. You've all been extremely welcoming and it's been very exciting to be part of a project that's evolving and growing so rapidly, but still maintains a friendly heart and hub of great people. I can only hope that all the other new people who've arrived in this current influx can feel as welcomed as I have. Congratulations on a very successful launch; now let's make WV even better! :) --Nicholasjf21 (talk) 01:40, 25 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
m:Www.wikivoyage.org template/temp sky background has progressed. I put all the required CSS into the page so that we can edit it, and removed some unneeded CSS, and commented out the link to the "gadget" CSS because us non-admins can't edit that anyway. How does it look, Nick? (okay to reply on it's talk page) (and thank you PiRSquared17 for great help, and the URLs are all conformant with //example.org form) --Rogerhc (talk♣) 05:56, 19 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
I tried it in my User:Rogerhc/common.css just now and like how it shows the white text on the banners on Main Page New. The comma separates two shadow definitions. By doing two, one positive and one negative, we get a shadow on both sides of the letters. The third em value in each shadow definition specifies how far out to blur the shadow. --Rogerhc (talk♣) 01:02, 25 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks very much Roger!! I'm not very good at coding if I'm honest, so thanks very much for your help - it's greatly appreciated! :) --Nick (talk) 01:05, 25 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Damn, beat me to it! :P On another note, not sure that we should be totally abolishing barnstars. Maybe some people prefer barnstars over the new system, and there's no real reason to deny them that. Also, some barnstars, as you can see at the top of this page, were given as barnstars, and changing them to barncompasses is inaccurate and messing with history. JamesA>talk08:04, 27 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Haha! Thanks very much to both of you! I'll change the original barnstar template back. The only reason I hadn't left any other awards was that, when I spoke with Peter, we agreed that it might be best to keep things simple and just have 1, but it might be worth having a discussion and seeing what the community thinks on that topic: I don't really mind either way. :) --Nick (talk) 10:14, 27 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
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That's great you got a response from such a significant city! As for what we should tell them to do, I'm actually not completely sure. I'm on a little bit of a hiatus from this project at the moment, so can't offer much brainstorming power. However, I think a loose template to follow would be to request an informal partnership in improving the Manchester article with up-to-date listings, new prose, photos, districtifying if needbe, etc. Then we could potentially ask for a small link to be added to the footer of their website.
They've put us in a difficult spot by asking for the number of pageviews. When we flaunt the project, we are really talking about its potential viewership and not the current. As you can see, sometimes the views of the Manchester page is dipping as low as 8 people a day, which is shocking. That site also appears to use shoddy methods, as sometimes when I type in articles, it puts the page much higher than I'd ever expect and some days are showing up as 0 (see Qatar). Anyway, I'd just mention in passing in your response that the Wikimedia Foundation is still readying an official tool to view individual page views. But compare the stats on Alexa, where Wikivoyage ranks 7,550th ([1]) and Visit Manchester ranks 274,117th ([2]) worldwide. All the best, JamesA>talk10:27, 11 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
That's a great idea, but I've already suggested it on the talk page there. It's definitely a missed opportunity if they don't do it, but I don't think anyone's really bothering with expanding the merchandise business at the current time. JamesA>talk03:04, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Merchandise would be a great way to go - it seems a wasted opportunity not to create some travel-oriented things people can buy! --Nick (talk) 10:06, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I did search "Template:Stamp" on other WM Foundation sites, but I don't think I can see any templates similar. Maybe you can create other {{stamp}} templates for other stamp projects on other WM Projects -- upload images on WM Commons[3] and then maybe you can discuss this more on MetaWiki[4]. Curtaintoad (user · talk · contribs)11:15, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Very late response :) But we're definitely looking at expanding the merch options (though you're right we're going slow for many reasons as we figure out the right direction) and actually have a bunch of new ones that will be looking for the next 3-4 weeks. One of those will almost certainly be a Wikivoyage luggage tag though I really like the stamps! I'll look into the options :) Jalexander (talk) 10:04, 2 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Hello Nicholasjf21; I am just letting you know that I am trying to create another new main page on my sandbox in my userspace (I hope you like the new main page when it comes out). The rest of this message is a bit complicated, sorry, but I will try my best. Thanks. Curtaintoad (user · talk · contribs)07:21, 15 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
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In order to maintain the contributor history I've deleted the copy of User:Nicholasjf21/M5 Motorway that you previously created and moved the existing article to the same location. If we ever do restore the article this will ensure that contributors are credited in accordance with the CC-SA license. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Hi. Thanks for trying one, but I really don't like the horizontal Empire State Building. Perhaps we should discuss banner images at Talk:New York City.
Yeah, to be honest, I don't either! It was an experiment that didn't really work... I'll make a topic on the discussion page now. --Nick (talk) 20:15, 14 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Nick, I appreciate your enthusiasm for your new logo idea, but I really think it would have been best to wait a day or two until WMF got the new contest discussion going and had a chance to explain to the community what's going on. LtPowers (talk) 00:19, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
That's absolutely fine, yes! I only dived in because I was concerned about the time constraints of which you spoke, but if a formal contest is what we need then I'm happy to wait for that. Is it true that there's a problem with the current logo? --Nicktalk00:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
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The Wikivoyage Barncompass
Hello Nicholasjf21, so far your work on this project to us has been really appreciated—you have been creating new logos, making a new design for a main page, adding banners to cities and notable places, adding stamps, adding new expeditions, improving, writing pages and adding other things. Because you have done all that work since January 2013, I think you have been identified as one of the most active Wikivoyagers in this site. So you deserve this barncompass. You could possibly be an administrator (nomination page) if you keep this hark good work up. Please keep it up.
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Hey Nick. Thanks for covering Wikiviajes too. I was wondering if you'd be willing to make a second mockup that is the inverse of the one you made: a blue circle outline, white background, with the shapes in blue....Texugo (talk) 16:17, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Here you go! My only worry with it might be that, as it's now predominantly white, it might look a little blank and/or not work at smaller sizes, but it is a good idea and definitely worth trying! --Nicktalk16:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Heads up, I've vectorized your logo icon. Please let me know if there's anything additional you'd like help with—I preserved some pretty slight asymmetries you had already in your icon (particularly the curvature of the long sides of the triangle), but if those weren't purposeful and you'd prefer any smoother curves, that would be easy to do. --PeterTalk23:17, 5 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thank you so much! That's truly fantastic! :) I hadn't actually noticed any asymmetries - whoops! I'm more than happy to lose them unless you think they add anything? If you'd be prepared to fix them I would be very very grateful!
What do you think of it now? If you have any other ideas, please do let me know: I'm more than happy for this to be a 'team effort'. :) :--Nicktalk23:39, 5 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
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If the pagebanner template has doesn't work properly with images less than 1800 pixels wide, it probably should say so in the documentation. --Footwarrior (talk) 22:39, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi! I've not reverted any of your edits, but have manually changed a few of them back to how they were before: I didn't do this lightly. I just felt that, in some places, your copy-editing had removed a little of the spirit of the article, when humour and flair are welcomed here. Also, I wasn't quite sure about the changes you made to the first paragraph as most of the information regarding the airport's specific size and rank was already present in the Understand section.
I do, however, apologise if you believed these edits to be in bad faith. I'm certainly not trying to claim ownership over any article on here and you are more than welcome to edit Manchester Airport as many times as you want and revert all my edits from yesterday. I simply felt that the copy-editing process had removed some of the article's spirit unnecessarily, but I can obviously understand if you don't agree.
If I had planned to revert your changes I would of course have spoken with you first. Instead, as you can see from the edit history, I did edited some of your changes in bits. However, I'm sorry if I was a bit overzealous with it: in retrospect, I should have spoken to you first. Unfortunately, editing at 1 in the morning can mess up one's mind!
Either way, I'm truly sorry if I have offended you and hope that I haven't done any damage to the work that we have done together on here: we co-operate well and it would be a shame to lose that. If there's anything I can do to make it up to you, please let me know. :) --Nicktalk06:59, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I absolutely believe in your good faith, but I guess either with strictly reverting or with editing, we might want to discuss it when the result is basically the same - reverting the edits made. Otherwise, I consider any edit to an article as adding value and one should plunge forward.
I believe we have quite opposing views as to the spirit, humour and flair of this article. I believe that traveller comes first, and entertainment and our desire to share the finer bits of our writing second. In particular, I believe this article has a lead that is too short and not quite informative, while being slightly misleading - while MAN is 21st in Europe by passenger traffic, calling it one of "Europe's largest" somehow makes it seem in line with Heathrow, Frankfurt, CDG or AMS. I believe it is better to explain its role in more detail in the lead and why it has its own article.
That said, I am not entirely sure if we actually need an article on MAN, as CPH, Gardermoen, ARL, BRU or Malpensa see just as much passenger traffic and even more intercontinental connections, yet they are doing mightily fine being entirely described in their metropole's articles. PrinceGloria (talk) 07:23, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for responding! Once again, I apologise for not discussing this with you first - it was a mistake on my part.
I think you're probably right that we do disagree on the importance of flair here. It is perfectly possible that I've been blinded by my own brilliance (haha) and perhaps can't see that, for an unfamiliar traveller, it might not make much sense! Perhaps it's worth asking for a third opinion on this issue.
Manchester was one of the first airports to receive its own article and is considerably larger than some airports already featured. I also think it now has too much content to be remerged with Manchester, however, if you feel this is an important issue, please feel free to put it up for discussion on the expedition page.
Fair enough, but if you look at the criteria for airports, they were altered so that more airports like Manchester could be catered for. MAN fits the criteria and, whilst not the largest airport in the world, there is too much content for it to fit comfortably on the Manchester page (at least in my opinion). --Nicktalk10:03, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
I just wanted to clarify two points of practice here particular to Wikivoyage. Per Wikivoyage:Consensus#Status quo bias, the procedure is to undo disputed changes, and then discuss—not to consult before reverting. Also, per Wikivoyage:Tone, lively writing cannot be toned down—it may only be replaced by writing just as lively or moreso. --PeterTalk19:27, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thank you Peter. I did not know about the first one, I still consider it better to at least leave reasons for reverting in the edit summary, if not contact an editor one knows on their talk page and explain why they believed the reverted edits were inappropriate. I know this is not Wikipedia, but perhaps I am still too accustomed to Wikipedia best practice. As with travelling, participating in this community will probably harden me over time.
As concerns the second one, let me explain my concerns are not about the lively tone in general, but the fact that verbosity (of which I am the number one perpetrator, I duly admit) or slightly irrelevant interjections can distract a reader from the core content of the article and break up a train of thought. Out of the guidelines listed in the page you like to, I believe being concise and to the point is the paramount one. That said, whenever something can be written in an enjoyable, lively and even humorous way, while still being as concise and to the point, it is obviously the best to do so.
I am, however, sorry if it appeared a bit abrupt PrinceGloria; I don't want anyone to feel like I don't value their contributions. If I am sometimes a little... exuberant in my use of English, I will try to make sure that, in future, it doesn't get in the way of actual content. And there's no need to apologise - getting all these emails has made me feel very popular! :D --Nicktalk20:27, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
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What about the JS patch? Anything is moving?
I'm not really sure what's happening with that at present. I'm all for it being implemented ASAP, but there doesn't seem to have been a huge response on Wikivoyage talk:Banner Expedition. It might be worth asking there as well, to see if there are any outstanding issues. It would be good to get it done soon as I'm not a fan of double titles! --Nicktalk08:27, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Good! :-) Regarding "opinions" I don't know if you may be interested on discussion article contents too, but in the affirmative case, I'd like to invite you (and involve people) to give an opinion to Talk:Ireland. I've asked also in Wikivoyage:Requests for comment but only one person has shown. --Andyrom75 (talk) 22:49, 18 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for accepting, I'll wait for your comment :-) In the meanwhile, can you tell me all the policy/guideline pages related to the Pagebanner? I'd like to import&translate them in it:voy. --Andyrom75 (talk) 05:59, 19 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the info. I've already imported the second one and for the first one I'd like to create the whole expedition section, so it would take more time.
I've answered you in the Ireland discussion. Give me you feedback.
Nothing seems to happen on the pagetitle. Who are the decision maker on that?
Pagebanner JS patch has been implemented! Do you have the latest IE9? I'd like to test it as well (I have only IE8 and I can't upgrade it). And if you have the opportunity please check Talk:Ireland. Thanks, --Andyrom75 (talk) 06:37, 25 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Really sorry for missing your message! It's all been a bit hectic here! If I can help at all with the tests, just let me know! I'll have a look at Ireland now. :) --Nicktalk18:49, 27 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Hey, I promise I will help with the Tour Agency, as soon as I get a spare couple of hours to give it proper thought ;) --PeterTalk07:43, 23 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks very much! It's good to hear from you! Sorry if my post on your page in response to Tony did more harm than good, I just wanted to refute his ridiculous claims! :) --Nicktalk09:25, 23 June 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Hey Nick, Danapit mentioned that it might be nice to add something about the social media developments we have made in recent months at meta:Wikivoyage/Summit#July 2013. You are a lot more knowledgeable than I am on these matters—would you mind adding a quick overview of what we've been up to? Thanks! --PeterTalk21:17, 9 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
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The next time you log on you may behold the awesome shininess of your new buttons. See Wikivoyage:Administrator's handbook for guidelines on using the amazing power of the "rollback" button or the awesome capabilities of the "delete" button. If you have questions please ask. -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:33, 24 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
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My commiserations.
Your design was my favourite. By far the best at icon size and timeless. Thanks for all the effort you put into designing it; the result just proves what I've known for more than 7 years here: this community is "graphically challenged". --W. Franke-mailtalk21:12, 11 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thank you very much for your kind words - they mean a lot! :) I am a bit disappointed, but we'll just have to wait and see what happens with the remaining choices. --Nicktalk21:17, 11 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks very much! That's very kind of you! Sorry for being a bit quick to change the Italy banner yesterday - I was a bit too far in the "zone"! The ones I've put on aren't all amazing, but I don't like seeing grey at the top of every page, so I'm trying to cover as many as possible! --Nicktalk21:22, 13 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Nick - I'm not sure what you meant by your question about the banner displaying normal links. What did you have in mind?
For the logo, a couple of things you could try are:
put the logo and search box inside the div that holds the image
for the logo and search box, specify a % with the top style (e.g., top:35% for the logo and top:70% for the search box) - that way the placement scales with the image size (although the size of the logo doesn't scale)
check the number of <div> tags versus </div>, I think more sections are closed than opened
After looking at it a bit more, I wonder if the logo is too prominent. What do you think of making the logo smaller and putting it to the left of the search box and maybe making the search box a little bigger? Another benefit to a smaller logo is, since it doesn't scale the same way the main image does, it wouldn't overpower the picture on small screens.
That's great! Thanks very much for your help! I do like the idea of a smaller logo to the left of the search box: I'll have a play and see what I can do. By normal links I meant whether the banner could be used to display links to the pages themselves, rather than to their location on the page (i.e. not acting as the TOC). I did have a go, but wasn't too successful! :) --Nicktalk14:37, 24 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Hey, Nick. I just noticed the odd way you handled Bolton. Until recently, that was a dab page, which you overwrote with the contents of Bolton (England), yes? Can I ask why you did it that way instead of the usual method of moving Bolton to Bolton (disambiguation) and then Bolton (England) to Bolton? Doing it that way would have made the edit history much more clear and preserved attribution. (There's also the question of whether the English town meets our primary-topic guideline, but that's a different discussion.) LtPowers (talk) 17:13, 29 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi! Sorry about that, the way I did it was rather odd and I only really realised that that was the case last night. I've been playing with that page since I first arrived at WV, so some of the things on it are a bit... unorthodox; it shows my inexperience I suppose! How should I go about fixing it? Is it too late to do it without losing bits? In terms of primary topic, the English town is far bigger than any of the others, features on the Wikivoyage:World_cities page and its article has the most content, however, if you don't agree that it deserves most prominence, I don't mind putting it all back as it was before and drawing a line under the mess I made. Thanks for the heads up! --Nicktalk17:38, 29 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
It's a tricky thing; I was surprised to see it was the primary topic even on Wikipedia. But of course, our criteria are a bit more strict. It'd have to be a question for the wider community. As for fixing it up, it is possible, but could be tricky. Mostly I was checking to see if there was a compelling reason to do it as you did, and as a gentle reminder to avoid it in the future. =) LtPowers (talk) 20:38, 29 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
I have made a bit of a mess there, but I'll attempt to clean it up as much as I can! I'll make sure not to do it again - thanks for telling me the right way to do these things! :) --Nicktalk20:41, 29 August 2013 (UTC)Reply
A great lead paragraph for England and "bucolic epithet"
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Hi Nick. I really love your new 'spicing up' of the lead paragraph for England. Its beautifully written and sums the country up perfectly. My only concern is that while "bucolic epithet" sounds good, might it be a couple of flowery words too far? While by no means a linguistic expert, I consider myself to be quite an intelligent guy with a good grasp of the English language and had to look up both words for their meanings. My feeling is that would be the reaction of our readers, many of whom don't speak English as a first language. I wonder what your thoughts on this are?
Thanks very much! I think you're right about 'bucolic epithet' though - I got a little carried away there! "Land of Hope and Glory" was playing in my head! :) I've changed it now - is that any better? --Nicktalk16:40, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Re: 'Land of hope and glory', I had a feeling it might have been! It was certainly playing in my head as I read it...
Yeah, I think that new change is a lot better. You might have noticed I've just tweaked it slightly so it's crystal clear that the sentence is directly referring to the phrase 'green and pleasant land', but that was really just cosmetic. Anyways, enjoy what's left of the weekend and if you live in Britain hope that the summer weather returns for one last lap of honour before autumn. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:01, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! I am a Briton (near Manchester) and, in fact, like you, I'm a 19-year-old student too! You're definitely right to change the 'its' to 'this' - hopefully it's not quite so overly flowery now! Enjoy your weekend too and here's hoping that we do get a bit of sun sooner rather than later! :) --Nicktalk19:12, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Ah, a proper northerner! Unlike me, a 'southern English nancy' (to my Welsh dad and Scouse mum's eternal shame!) who's somehow found himself living in a freezing industrial city in Yorkshire and loving every minute of it.
I'm glad you're having a great time in Sheffield; I've had my fair share of freezing industrial cities! I'm doing History at Bristol at the moment, though I'm still up north at the moment. It's great to hear from another Brit and a student at that! I'm not sure that I'm a proper northerner, but I'm a real fan of many of the places here! :) --Nicktalk20:25, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Nick, our broken links summary reports that two subpages from you User:Nicholasjf21/Fundamentals_of_flying and User:Nicholasjf21/Pub include broken picture links. As several user try to get pics exchanged it would be welcomed if you could change the picture or delete the broken pic links. Thank you for your effort in advance! Regards, jan (talk) 17:06, 18 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Hey Nick - Off the top of my head, I'm not sure why the link=something wouldn't work in the mobile version. Maybe the mobile version doesn't allow it or doesn't know what to do with it (it does seem to have more control over how images are displayed)? I'll try to make some time in the next few days to play around with it. Cheers -Shaundd (talk) 19:28, 18 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi Nick, sorry, I've been meaning to leave you a message saying that I haven't had a chance to look into it yet. Everyone in the house is sick right now so I haven't been able to get a block of time to sit down and look at it. Hopefully next week, sorry! :-) -Shaundd (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
There's really no need to apologise! I'm really sorry to hear that everyone's ill; I hope you all get better soon! Sorry for nagging! :) --Nicktalk09:46, 28 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Hey Nick, was it you who raised the possibility of having coloured section headings a few months back? I've been messing around with it and have some code to turn section headings into a blue background (the colours aren't unique for each section though). I was wondering if you wanted to test it out since I know you don't like all that black, grey and white. :-) If you're interested, there are three CSS styles you'll have to copy from User:Shaundd/common.css into your own common.css file, and then it should work. I don't want to release it into the general common.css file yet since I haven't tested it thoroughly on different browsers and I'm not sure if everyone will like the change. Cheers -Shaundd (talk) 04:25, 9 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
I've had a go as well. It looks decent for longer articles, especially with the additional lighter tone for subsections but... for articles with lower content (which is most pages), such as Talampaya National Park, it just makes the page very heavy and stripey and further highlights the lack of content, which I think looks pretty bad. I might be willing to give it another look with super-translucent, barely-there colors, but I think these strong colors are pretty overpowering for the majority of our shorter pages. Texugo (talk) 11:54, 9 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Without seeing it myself, I would suggest that if the bars go all the way across the screen, that they be limited in some fashion; that should reduce the stripey-sock effect. LtPowers (talk) 15:53, 9 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
I've tweaked the colours slightly and squared the edges off (hope you don't mind Shaun!). You can take a look at and copy my CSS (if you want) here. --Nicktalk16:05, 9 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 11 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion
Hi there. I was just cleaning through Special:WantedCategories and I came across the (non-existent) Category:User documentation pages, of which the only member is User:Nicholasjf21/OnelinerTOC/doc. I didn't immediately see how to get rid of the category call or whatever, so I thought I'd just ask-- What is this category? Does it need to be created, or can we get rid of the inclusion of your user page? Texugo (talk) 20:54, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Please feel free to get rid of it! I can't actually remember creating it, so I think I must have copied it from somewhere. I've not looked at that page in months, so I'd be perfectly happy for you to do whatever you want with it. Thanks! --Nicktalk20:57, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
On closer inspection, it just appears to be a port of a template over on WP, so it should be easily retrievable, should we ever need it. You're more than welcome to delete both the page and the category if you'd like or whatever you think is best. I have no attachment to that page! :) --Nicktalk21:03, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 11 years ago7 comments3 people in discussion
G'Day, Nick!
Because you can configure startpage.com to show pages with 10, 20, 50 or 100 results per page it might be more useful to give the actual result position than write about "5th page" which could mean anything from 50th to 599th position in the search results.
startpage.com is good not just because it de-personalises results and gives you essentially a vanilla USA result, but because its consistency also allows you to track incremental impovements or demotions over time - although I think we both know that any position below the top 3 to 6 results is entirely awful and means you get very few readers!
It's also hugely important to use a realistic and popular search phrase such as "manchester guide" rather than "manchester travel guide" which only a tiny minority of pedants will ever use. (Typical pattern would be to search first for just "manchester" and only when those results are not satisfactory to add a one (or, more rarely two) word qualifier to the search box. All the best, Nick! --118.93nzp (talk) 01:02, 12 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
You're right! My search terms are a little bit unlikely if I'm honest, though it's good to see that some articles are improving anyway. All my results are from the default 10 results layout, but I will be more precise in future! Nice to hear from you, Nicktalk01:05, 12 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
I'm not convinced someone would use "guide" as a fallback for investigating travel options. More likely is "hotels" or "attractions" or "travel" or "visiting". LtPowers (talk) 01:32, 12 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Fortunately we don't have to accept either my own or your (differing) opinions on this, Powers. There are SEO tools available which will pinpoint the most popular search terms quite precisely - Google themselves provide some of the most useful for webmasters. There are a limited number of search terms that you can optimise a web site for and never in a month of Sundays are we ever likely to rank in the top 3 organic search results (those first 3-5 places are the only ones that really count) for search strings such as "someplace hotel". Aggregation sites such as Hotels.com and Expedia will always outgun us both in Google bucks and search engine optimisation. If Frank's action plan had been followed we would already have always ranked in the top 3 results for "guide someplace" ("visiting" is a rare to non-existent search term and "travel" or "travelling" is usually only used when folks are looking up train and bus timetables!) --118.93nzp (talk) 03:49, 19 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yes, you and Frank have both claimed that repeatedly, but neither of you has provided any evidence to convince anyone else of the validity. LtPowers (talk) 18:16, 20 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Search Engine Optimisation is largely empirical and if you actually bother to search the literature you will see the truth of both his words and mine. Frank issued you a challenge - what have you got to lose other than search engine obscurity and duplicate penalties? If his recommendations don't work, you can always go back to curator mode... --118.93nzp (talk) 19:19, 20 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
"Search the literature" with no further advice or guidance is singularly unhelpful when speaking to a layman. And it's already been explained, repeatedly, what we've "got to lose", but the concerns have not been addressed. LtPowers (talk) 16:24, 21 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hi! Yes, I am the Twitter bod on here. :) I did see your addition to the Twitter page - the only reason I didn't tweet about it immediately was because it had already been featured as our OtBP. I'll tweet about it in the context of our latest star article very soon! :) PS Thanks for taking a look at the Main Page proposals - I really appreciate your feedback! :) --Nicktalk13:52, 18 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, that makes sense :=) And the main page: I very much like the new design and hope to see it in action soon! I will keep eye on the discussion, although technically I have nothing to contribute. All the best, Danapit (talk) 14:57, 18 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 11 years ago28 comments3 people in discussion
Hi, Nicholas!
Here are the screenshots. The banner problem is present both in Safari and Firefox.
How it looks in Safari...and in Firefox
What's more interesting is that the banner looked normal (like a pagebanner when I first saw it). Are other Mac users maybe experiencing the samt thing? o.O ϒpsilon (talk) 18:31, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for doing that! I'm really sorry this isn't working! I've made it a fixed image now, so it should work without issue... hopefully! --Nicktalk18:52, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Now it's been XS, XL and currently XXL - I took a screenshot but it's already "old". It would be good if User:Saqib or someone else on a Mac would be here to say if they have the same issues too. Well, I should look at it the positive way, I get a better look at the banner as it is bigger. :D. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:02, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
It was the same for me - I made it smaller for Ypsilon and others in his situation. It's not ideal, but I was trying to compromise. --Nicktalk19:37, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Did it look normal to you all the time Saqib? It's strange. It looked normal to me earlier in the evening but when I wrote in the pub it had "grown". (Now it's been small about half an hour). ϒpsilon (talk) 19:41, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Ypsi, as I said above this banner was looking normal for me a while ago (same size as page banners) but now it became small. Nick, would you please update the site notice ID. --Saqib (talk) 19:50, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Please undo Nick. It's hiding the page titles. Ypsi, please upload your screen shot. For me, its still not normal. Here's my screenshot. The strange thing is that the banner in the site notice is not exactly the same in size as it is in the site notice page. --Saqib (talk) 20:40, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Ridiculous. Nick, I want you to try "[[File:Wikivoyage Birthday Banner.jpg|frameless|1050px|link=Wikivoyage:Travellers'_pub#Happy Birthday, Wikivoyage!|alt=Happy Birthday Wikivoyage!]]" --Saqib (talk) 20:52, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Okay, the size look fine for me though the banner need to be centred. Perhaps adding "center" in the banner image link would work? BTW, whats the site notice banner size looking for you Nick? --Saqib (talk) 21:11, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
What a pain! I suppose, as a temporary fixture, it's not too important if it's not perfect. I think the birthday might be a good opportunity to raise the Main Page again... :) --Nicktalk21:58, 14 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 11 years ago6 comments2 people in discussion
Nick, I know you mean well, but wouldn't it be better to let users put their choice of co-ordinates on the map ?
I know it's tedious to ask each individual user that you think you know the whereabouts of, but some folks might not even realise that you have amended their entry... --118.93nzp (talk) 00:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
I've only put the co-ordinates in of the place the person identifies: i.e. for the user who put Mumbai, I used the co-ordinates for Mumbai, whilst users who put their home simply as Mongolia have the coordinates that we use for Mongolia. As such, I'd hope that I'm not giving away any more info than the user initially intended, but if you think I should stop, I will do. Thanks for getting in touch! :) --Nicktalk00:22, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
I'm really not sure, Nick, but I do think it would be better perhaps to have a templated message placed on the user's talk page pointing out that they can add their co-ordinates and where and how to do it (perhaps adding that if they can't work out how to do it themselves, that they can ask you nicely for help) - for one thing, they may have stopped editing and if you do it for them, it may lead to a very misleading map of editors who are no longer that active. --118.93nzp (talk) 00:31, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
I think you're right. Is it perhaps worth blanking the page and starting from scratch? We could perhaps add a link to the page from the standard Welcome message as well. Ryan's posted aboutthis too. --Nicktalk00:36, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
That's a bit drastic, but there may be scope for exploring whether there is a consensus to remove those names that have not made an edit for one year {or put "(retired) after their names} and at the same time putting a notice on their talk page as to what has happened...
Latest comment: 11 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
Hey there. I don't really know what all these Enjoy Tokyo pages are about, I guess you found stuff on Wikibooks? Anyway, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind clearing out the broken image links and unnecessary red links from them, so that they don't populate maintenance lists like Category:Pages with broken file links and Special:WantedPages. What do ya say? Texugo (talk) 13:59, 10 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Yes, will do! Sorry that there are so many - an awful lot seemed to have been stored on Wikibooks under a GNU licence - a bit of a shame really, but I will clear them. --Nicktalk14:48, 10 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 11 years ago12 comments2 people in discussion
Hi there. I'm not sure what you were trying to do exactly, but I just reverted 5 page moves you did for pages that start with Hiking in the Canadian Rockies/Wikibooks/Abcdefg... The pages were not formatted or named like any page type we use here, and contained fragmented information already in place on the main Hiking in the Canadian Rockies page you made, plus they were screwing up the counts on the WV:Maintenance panel since they didn't belong to any known page type. I hope you don't mind me putting them back in your user space for now. Texugo (talk) 19:55, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
That's fine! I moved them simply for attribution purposes as Wikibooks is deleting them, so I wasn't sure where to put them. Is there a better way of providing proper attribution? It's probably not ideal to keep them in my userspace if we want them to be properly viewable. --Nicktalk20:01, 11 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 10 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
Hi Nick - if possible, would you mind flagging any additions to MediaWiki:Common.css that are for demonstration purposes so that we can easily remove them later if they are not implemented? Unused CSS and JS takes up bandwidth and slows down page rendering somewhat, so it would be good to have a comment like /* DEMO: for User:Wrh2/Main_Page */ around CSS that may not be permanent. If there is a reason not to do so then ignore this request, but if it doesn't create much extra work then it would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:01, 23 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
That definitely sounds worthwhile to me! This type of vandalism has been on the rise lately and I can only see it increasing - thanks for adding that filter! -Nicktalk23:41, 13 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
Now I see that you were already aware of it not being the first time vandals move pages on a massive scale lately (when pressing "Add topic" I seldom read comments already here). Anyhow, I think "vandalism only" accounts should be indefblocked without any warning shots just as Ryan did with Boeing 737. ϒpsilon (talk) 07:53, 14 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 10 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Hi Nick, There is a new book out called "The Metrolink Companion" by Barry Worthington that is basically a tourist's guide to Greater Manchester but from the Metrolink. I bought it today and it is 300+ pages of A5 text with great detail of what to see if travelling by tram. I was wondering about adding a line or two about it? Altfish (talk) 19:04, 24 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
A sentence directing people who want to find out more sounds fine to me; as long as it's not overt advertising and follows the Don't Tout guidelines on here, I can't see anyone having a problem with it. :) --Nicktalk23:46, 24 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 10 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion
Have all the pages you wish to use at Wikivoyage been imported yet per your RFD nominations at English Wikibooks? I have proposed to keep "Hiking in the Canadian Rockies", "Teaching Assistant in France Survival Guide", and "Guide to Electrical Equipment for Travelers" because of their more specific scope and audience. Where Wikibooks and Wikivoyage should or shouldn't overlap isn't clear yet, so this can also be understood as an attempt to err on the side of caution with respect to those three books. --Darklama (talk) 04:20, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
I have imported all of them yes, thank you, though I thought that the electrical guide might sit well here as it's very similar to Electrical systems. Thanks for getting in touch! --Nicktalk11:28, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 10 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
Hi Nick - you added a merge tag to Wikivoyage:Tips for new contributors in April [5]. Can you point me to a discussion that led to that tagging so that I have some background before attempting to resolve the issue? Currently the "tips" page is the first link in our standard welcome message, so I'd like to resolve the issue of having the first thing a new user clicks on going to a page that is tagged for merging. Thanks for any info! -- Ryan • (talk) • 19:25, 29 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
Hi! It's a while a go, so I'm not 100% sure, but this looks like the likely discussion - [6]. Feel free to remove the tag if you don't think it's pertinent or desirable. I think I just thought that the discussion was insufficient top act, so I just tagged it instead. --Nicktalk03:27, 30 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 10 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion
Hi Nick,
I am one of the two admins at the Hebrew Wikivoyage and am THE most active user at the Hebrew Wikivoyage since it was launched back in March 2013. After various Hebvoy users told me that they prefer a more minimalist and colorful design for Hebvoy's front page (instead of the old front page design which resembled Wikipedia's front page design), in the recent weeks I created a new slightly altered version of the Engvoy front page which is now used as the front page design of the Hebrew Wikivoyage.
I noticed that you were involved in creating the beautiful design of the English Wikivoyage front page back in March last year. Did you create this design completely by yourself? (who is Mark?)
Unfortunately, the altered design I created, has an annoying bug I haven't solved yet... this bug causes the two image maps embeded in the two banner maps to not work properly when the users whom view this page have a smaller screen size (for example, if the users have older computer screens or tablet/phablet/phone screens). You'll be able to see this problem clearly if you resize your browser's window size on your desktop/laptop (the regions of the map become unclickable). Do you happen to know how to fix this bug? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 03:32, 7 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Hi there!
Sorry for the slow reply! From what I remember, this was Mark's domain really. From what I remember he created some JavaScript that resized the imagemap beneath the picture so it worked seamlessly - it might be worth having a look through the scripts that are active on EN and seeing if you can find it.
Latest comment: 10 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
Hi Nick - question for you: there is currently a large amount of CSS in MediaWiki:Common.css for the User:Nicholasjf21/MainPage2 page. Is that proposed main page still something that is being pursued? If not, would it be possible to move that CSS to your user space CSS file (User:Nicholasjf21/common.css)? Doing so would help clean up the main CSS file a bit, which would insignificantly improve page load times, but more importantly make our CSS a bit easier to maintain. Note that if the proposed main page changes are still under consideration then the CSS can definitely stay where it is, but if it's not an active proposal then it would probably be better to move it. Thanks! -- Ryan • (talk) • 17:36, 10 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
You're definitely right, Ryan! I'm sorry that I've not been on here more of late - life's been a bit busy (not in a bad way!)! Nice job with putting a search bar on the Main Page - I think it's a good addition. I'll get rid of any CSS that I can spot now - I'd sort of forgotten it was there! Whilst I was keen on that proposal it was perhaps a bit radical, maybe we can return to it at some point in the future. Hope you're well! --Nicktalk18:48, 10 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the CSS update. I'm horrendous at graphic design, but very much wanted to move forward with your search box idea - I give you full credit for the recent (incremental) change to the main page, and look forward to seeing what ideas you might have in store in the future. Hope to see you back more when your life calms down! -- Ryan • (talk) • 18:57, 10 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 9 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Hi @Nicholasjf21: I was looking at Wikivoyage:Tourism Bureau Expedition and was reading about what it is and what it aims to do. I am impressed by it and would like to help with it. But I don't exactly know how it works or how to contribute to it. I saw you were one of the main people behind it and I wondered whether you could help me understand it? I would be able to help especially with South East England (East Sussex and Eastbourne in particular). Could you help explain it to me? Seagull123 Φ 19:59, 2 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
Hi there! Thanks for getting in touch; sorry for the slow response - been exploring the world myself! The expedition has suffered a little recently, but is certainly still alive and well (indeed I contacted Marketing Manchester recently to inform them that the city was our Destination of the Month). We've mainly been focussed on contacting Tourism Boards and investigating potential areas for cooperation. It's great to meet another Briton on here - were any bureaux in particular that you were thinking of contacting? :) --Nicktalk22:28, 10 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Hi!
I noticed you haven't contributed here in a while. If you still do check out Wikivoyage, you might want to know that Manchester Airport has been nominated for FTT and it will probably be featured in four months, that is, in October. As the main contributor to the article in 2013, and presumably a local, do you have any opinion on the article's current state (is it up to date?, is something important missing?) or the nomination in general? ϒpsilon (talk) 19:33, 15 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
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